No worries dog. I was also tired of semantic battles at that point and also wasn’t having it, so also came off as a dick. I also have my 07 FFL and SOT, so, trust me, I get it, I was/am wrong. The correction is warranted. Just not at all the conversation I was trying to have lmao

Cool man

Oh yeah, 1000%. Also, with a C&R license, you’re not legally purchasing a “firearm”. It’s a curio or relic, but yeah, point still stands.

Also, none of that has anything to do with the discussion at hand, which was sorta my point.

It’s really not.

Okay? I don’t know what you’re arguing here? 3D printed guns aren’t a meme. Some don’t require any regulated parts. I don’t care if the average Chinese person can or will get their hands on one. You can just say you didn’t know what you were talking about when you said 3d printed guns are a “meme”. It’s not that deep

Let me introduce to you, the FGC9

Heres a rifled barrel for less than $100

Well, the article references Americans, I’m American, so okay?

Europeans can also get guns mailed to their front door, are we just comparing gun laws?

It’s also more expensive. The use-case for 3d printed guns isn’t as an heirloom that you’re passing down. It’s either a niche hobby, a way of doing something illegal, or you’re running an insurgency(which I guess falls into the illegal territory lol) in which case, you don’t need something that’ll last forever, you need a tool for a job.

Electro chemical machining can make a barrel.

But, idk how any of what you said makes them a “meme”. You can buy a barrel online for cheap, also ammo, and I don’t have to go through a government check. That’s what a lot of these people want to avoid.

Oh 1000%. I probably went off on my own tangent after not understanding.

I’m not trying to be snarky, I can see how it might come off this way. I’m just having a discussion.

Anyway, a lot of that sorta testing is inside the files you download/in blogs of the file makers. You are correct though, there are no studies.

Now, it does definitely get into “he said, she said” type territory there however, I would find it somewhat telling that you don’t hear about people being hospitalized after messing around with them. Someone would have posted it somewhere, and those files wouldn’t be circulated.

Now, my opinion on that is based on as much data as “3D printed guns are dangerous and blow up” is. So anecdotal for sure.

You just might be surprised how well these things actually function, and yes, I’ve had multiple. Honestly, it’s an interesting rabbit hole to go down just to come to grips on how simple(or not) firearms actually are.

Well, that, I suppose, or the fact that they’re almost untraceable so we don’t have selling/download stats on them as you’re not legally allowed to sell your own manufactured firearms, and they haven’t been used in crime much so we don’t have crime stats. What statistics are you after?

We have seen a lot of 3D gun usage. Not sure why you think we haven’t or what scale constitutes “a lot”. But, yeah. They’re out there. I have one, and they’re only improving. Here’s an entire PDW.

I see your perspective for sure, and maybe I’m being way too optimistic/naive,(especially cause I’m going to reference capitalism and it’s the reason we’re having the conversation to begin with) but, isn’t the idea of “free markets” that if that were to happen, it opens the door for a competitor to undercut and take the market share?

Which the counter to that is, they’re in cahoots, but my counter to that would be, the little guy doesn’t care if the big guys set prices. Idk. It’s circular and the world is fucked as is.

Not that I’m defending them, however, they do not have an obligation to educate the American electorate. Trust me, I understand the outrage, however, in this case I think it’s misplaced. It’s not entirely the fault of Walmart and Costco CEO’s that everything is built from the ground up to be against the average person. In this specific case, especially when it comes to politics, I point to the absolute failure of the American education system to have massive amounts of the voting populous’ understanding of how the US government functions end in the 6th grade.

Now we can go back and fourth on the causes of the lack of education. In which, there’s still blame to put on CEO’s, but it’s a feature, not a bug that it is the way it is.

Obligatory Silicon Valley scene

Alternative real life example that makes me sad at the state of the world so it’s easier to point to TV show

It’s always been this way.

Please get ammo and go to the range. I work at a gun store, trust me, your hypothetical, alleged, enemy, has been armed, and has many hundreds/thousands of rounds downrange. Get proficient.

Edit: also if that rifle happens to be an AR-15, I work more specifically at a custom AR shop, so please hit me with any possible questions either now, or the future!

While I don’t disagree, from a business standpoint, yeah, exactly what you said, the reality is they’re coming. When prices go up, they just told everyone who to blame, rather than trying to deflect after having to raise prices.

Walmart doesn’t have an obligation to educate the American electorate.