David Lloyd and his wife, Natalie, the daughter of Missouri state Rep. Ben Baker, and a third member of their missionary group were fatally shot in the attack.
Sounds great on paper but I’d have to know the details to give them any credit. Definitely heard of ‘Christian’ groups claiming to provide for 3rd world children that were outright fraud and\or actually abusive as fuck.
I’ve seen some Christian run homeless shelters that are basically just there to proselytize… and I’ve seen ones that are irreligious in appearance and service and just funded by Christians. I detest the proselytizing just as much as any other devote agnostic, but I’d like more information before judging this orphanage either way.
Absolutely 100% true for some, probably most, Christian run homeless shelters. Untrue for some (likely a minority) of homeless shelters. I’ve got no qualms about shitting on shitty Christians being asshats - I just have a problem generalizing this to everything.
I don’t agree with their religion and they shouldn’t have even been there. But to say that they were tourists is unfair. They were full-time missionaries. They (sadly) dedicated their lives to spreading their religion. They also probably tried to help meet basic needs like food, shelter, etc.
Religion is complicated and this was a preventable tragedy.
Why? They were missionaries. That’s not a good thing. Not saying they should be murdered of course but I think respect is really not what they deserve either.
I respect the work they were trying to do, but like… everyone was saying to GTFO of Haiti nearly a year ago. It’s not worth your life.
Haiti needs food, not Christian missionaries.
These are tourists killed on vacation.
They worked in an orphanage, providing food and shelter to children.
Sounds great on paper but I’d have to know the details to give them any credit. Definitely heard of ‘Christian’ groups claiming to provide for 3rd world children that were outright fraud and\or actually abusive as fuck.
I’ve seen some Christian run homeless shelters that are basically just there to proselytize… and I’ve seen ones that are irreligious in appearance and service and just funded by Christians. I detest the proselytizing just as much as any other devote agnostic, but I’d like more information before judging this orphanage either way.
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I’m gonna’ need a citation for that one.
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Thanks!
The place where I live requires unpaid labor too. I don’t get why Mom has such a problem with Doritos dust. Let it lie, I say!
This is a funny comment but in no way is a homeless shelter doing that okay
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Absolutely 100% true for some, probably most, Christian run homeless shelters. Untrue for some (likely a minority) of homeless shelters. I’ve got no qualms about shitting on shitty Christians being asshats - I just have a problem generalizing this to everything.
I don’t agree with their religion and they shouldn’t have even been there. But to say that they were tourists is unfair. They were full-time missionaries. They (sadly) dedicated their lives to spreading their religion. They also probably tried to help meet basic needs like food, shelter, etc.
Religion is complicated and this was a preventable tragedy.
You’re right. Tourists don’t do anywhere near as much damage as missionaries.
Why? They were missionaries. That’s not a good thing. Not saying they should be murdered of course but I think respect is really not what they deserve either.
With how much religion kills, no one who spreads their faith has clean hands.
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I don’t, keep your religious beliefs to yourself or fifo