I still stand by that comment very much. If a company makes a lot more than most other companies per employee, then quite obviously the profit margin is much higher than other companies. If the profit margin is much higher than other companies, then the price could be lowered. Steam is obviously the best and basically a monopoly which is why they can do that, but this is an example of how capitalism does not lead to the best efficiency.
I’m essentially advocating against more profit. I live a relatively poor life by choice. Almost everyone I meet calls me crazy, I rather work less than earn more money. I think one of our main problems as a species for sustainability is that everyone always wants more and more and is never satisfied. This applies individually and to companies/other organizations. As long as my basic needs like food and housing are covered, I’m happy.
I actually don’t find it confusing at all, as I’m also pro-Steam. They do a lot of very cool things and actually much better than everyone else. But they’re still part of a systemic problem that is worth criticizing/raising awareness for/solving.
It’s an example of team sports/tribalism. People either see a thing as universally good or universally bad. Steam is the Good Guy, so our psyche is wired to not criticize them as much as possible.
that’s true, I think of them as the bad guy, because I hate launchers, so I try to critizise them a lot… even though compared to most other big companies they are a saint. sad
I can understand that, but Valve is very customer focused, which is why people love them. It’s sad to say but these days most companies are not. Bad support, bad products, bad policies, etc most companies will try to give the shittiest passable product while spending big on marketing to grow.
Valve has had excellent support, innovative and niche products, and very pro-customer policies. Gabe’s often repeated quote on why people pirate is upheld within his company and it’s how they succeed.
I firmly believe that their success is due to their private ownership and his vision. If he were to sell or pass away, I would immediately stop trusting valve and look at them with a lot more scrutiny to see if they are changing for the worse, but for now he has earned my trust.
I totally get preferring GOG or systems that don’t require launches. Trust me. I never buy Rockstar or EA games because their lainchers are so anonying. Steam just works so well that I see their launcher as a benefit and not an annoyance. That’s just me though. Anyway, that some perspective from a Valve fan.
I guess, I just don’t get why it has to hog up my entire system and slow my computer to near unusable. but I couldn’t expect anyone these days to think of us people with a 2014 laptop
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Oh man, that sucks. I can’t say I’ve ever had performance issues due to steam, but my hardware is better. I wonder what it would be doing to chew up resources?
It probably has to do with how many people here use Linux, and Steam’s commitment to supporting Linux gaming. I myself have a fairly high opinion of them; they’re not perfect, but they’re better than the other big companies and I can actually play their games.
I also actually have a very high opinion of them, for all the same reasons. I even said that in my original comment that I’m not actually very much against Steam doing what it’s doing, since they’re still doing better stuff than anybody else.
I’m just not a fanboy and am able to criticize things I like.
When I said that excessive profits are essentially stealing in the context of Steam: https://lemm.ee/post/37004161/13249135
I still stand by that comment very much. If a company makes a lot more than most other companies per employee, then quite obviously the profit margin is much higher than other companies. If the profit margin is much higher than other companies, then the price could be lowered. Steam is obviously the best and basically a monopoly which is why they can do that, but this is an example of how capitalism does not lead to the best efficiency.
I’m essentially advocating against more profit. I live a relatively poor life by choice. Almost everyone I meet calls me crazy, I rather work less than earn more money. I think one of our main problems as a species for sustainability is that everyone always wants more and more and is never satisfied. This applies individually and to companies/other organizations. As long as my basic needs like food and housing are covered, I’m happy.
I feel you, I think the pro-steam stance here on Lemmy is a bit confusing.
I actually don’t find it confusing at all, as I’m also pro-Steam. They do a lot of very cool things and actually much better than everyone else. But they’re still part of a systemic problem that is worth criticizing/raising awareness for/solving.
It’s an example of team sports/tribalism. People either see a thing as universally good or universally bad. Steam is the Good Guy, so our psyche is wired to not criticize them as much as possible.
that’s true, I think of them as the bad guy, because I hate launchers, so I try to critizise them a lot… even though compared to most other big companies they are a saint. sad
I can understand that, but Valve is very customer focused, which is why people love them. It’s sad to say but these days most companies are not. Bad support, bad products, bad policies, etc most companies will try to give the shittiest passable product while spending big on marketing to grow.
Valve has had excellent support, innovative and niche products, and very pro-customer policies. Gabe’s often repeated quote on why people pirate is upheld within his company and it’s how they succeed.
I firmly believe that their success is due to their private ownership and his vision. If he were to sell or pass away, I would immediately stop trusting valve and look at them with a lot more scrutiny to see if they are changing for the worse, but for now he has earned my trust.
I totally get preferring GOG or systems that don’t require launches. Trust me. I never buy Rockstar or EA games because their lainchers are so anonying. Steam just works so well that I see their launcher as a benefit and not an annoyance. That’s just me though. Anyway, that some perspective from a Valve fan.
I guess, I just don’t get why it has to hog up my entire system and slow my computer to near unusable. but I couldn’t expect anyone these days to think of us people with a 2014 laptop 😂
Oh man, that sucks. I can’t say I’ve ever had performance issues due to steam, but my hardware is better. I wonder what it would be doing to chew up resources?
It probably has to do with how many people here use Linux, and Steam’s commitment to supporting Linux gaming. I myself have a fairly high opinion of them; they’re not perfect, but they’re better than the other big companies and I can actually play their games.
I also actually have a very high opinion of them, for all the same reasons. I even said that in my original comment that I’m not actually very much against Steam doing what it’s doing, since they’re still doing better stuff than anybody else.
I’m just not a fanboy and am able to criticize things I like.