In an unexpected mask off “secure” email and VPN provider Proton took the stance of siding with the fascist MAGA Reps. Proton’s services are no option for me and many others any longer. Let’s collect and discuss alternatives (E2E encrypted email and VPN) here 🔐👇

Always try to provide:

-Server location (jurisdiction)

-Governance

-Integrity/trustworthiness/transparency

-User experience/ease of use (grade 1 to 10, lets take Proton as a benchmark with an 8)

-Pricing and links

If you know alternative setups, feel free to share, too.

#ProtonExodus

Background: https://lemmy.ca/comment/13913116

Edit:typo

    • ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.netEnglish
      2·
      15 days ago

      Mailbox.org is another good one.

      EDIT: Apparently they recycle addresses, so if you ever cancel your subscription with them, someone could eventually sign up with your old address and receive any mail from places you didn’t switch over to a new address, which is concerning.

      • static@lemm.ee
        2·
        15 days ago

        I was considering them until I found out they allow the re-registration of previously used addresses. If you don’t log in for a year or so, someone else can take over your address and potentially gain access to various accounts you’ve registered with it.

        • jagged_circle@feddit.nlEnglish
          1·
          15 days ago

          Interesting. Not having this fucked me on tuta.

          I hadnt signed into tuta for some years, then I learned they killed my account. I had another service tied to that account, which wouldn’t let me login without an OTP sent to the email on file. I tried to re-register the account on tuta, but they refused. So I lost access to both accounts :(

          • ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.netEnglish
            2·
            15 days ago

            FYI, Posteo will never delete your account, and will still let you log in and receive emails even if you stop paying (you won’t be able to send emails until you pay the $1 a month again).

            They apparently will only recycle your address if you explicitly delete your account yourself.

    • perishthethought@lemm.eeEnglish
      1·
      16 days ago

      I don’t know about “the pick” but it was mine. Six months ago I looked around and decided to stay with Tuta for now. Encrypted email + calendar, on my custom domain, is all I need though. Ymmv

      • kate@lemmy.uhhoh.comEnglish
        2·
        16 days ago

        I only need email but they seem decent and much cheaper for multiple custom domains. They were one of the options I looked at before I signed up for proton and looks like they’ve improved a lot since, too