I mean, Pharo and Squeak are great spin-offs! I think everyone should try a Smalltalk at least once, they’re very fun!

In seriousness though, I have an online morning standup everyday so early that I basically wake up to do it and then start getting ready for the day after. And the worst part is the smalltalk. It’s not like I want to chat about the weather or your favorite foods or how the kids’ school play was at any other time of the day, but it is actual torture to make me endure it first thing every morning.