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    Software was probably one of the last areas where Tesla still had a small edge over the competition.

    The competition has caught up when it comes to range and Teslas were never really competitive when it comes to quality or price.

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      What software did they have to offer that was better than the competition? The collision avoidance was always worse than the rest. It was all fully of remote access surveillance features and repairs were impossible due to DRM locks. There was also the whole thing with the auto disengaging of the autopilot milliseconds before any unavoidable crash so they could better fake their safety stats.

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        Tesla understood the “computer on wheels” approach to vehicle engineering far before most, if not all, traditional manufacturers. Their EV route planner in combination with their Supercharger network is still mostly unbeaten and was long its biggest selling point. The software is far from perfect, but it’s mostly polished, mature and has been a focus from the beginning.

        All your criticism is perfectly valid, though. But most of them aren’t owed to lack of software quality but merely bad management decisions. I’d even argue that the autopilot is doing well with the limited sensors its been given - a restriction its unlikely to overcome with software alone, regardless of Elon’s lies.

        I would never buy a Tesla, but most manufacturers struggle more when it comes to delivering software people actually want to use.

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          Currently have a Volkswagen and in comparison to the Tesla app/car infotainment:

          • VW infotainment is laggy
          • VW can’t remote lock/unlock
          • VW doesn’t have the ability to use the car cameras as dashcam
          • VW app can’t connect to my car half the time because the 12v battery is too low
          • VW car lock/unlock when you approach/leave doesn’t work half the time because either the 12v battery is empty ( because it’s been parked for 2 days ) or because the car is in some kind of deep sleep.
          • sometimes the Spotify app just doesn’t work and I’d need to reboot the car.
          • android car tries to steal control all the fucking time. Can’t use android car and use the Spotify app in the car. Nope, need to use the Spotify through android car. They want 15€ a month, but 90% of the features just don’t work once you hook the car up to android car.

          I asked about it in a dealership ( the 12v battery ) and they say it’s probably not even related to the 12v battery. The app can’t connect to the car sometimes when it’s attached to a fucking charging point.

          I’m not unhappy with the VW car, but the software compared to the Tesla is wildly underwhelming in that regard. Tesla I could just walk up to the car, get in, and leave. With the VW the car only starts waking up the moment you get in the car. You can stand next to it talking for 20mins and once you get in the infotainment still needs to fucking boot. It doesn’t take long, but it is annoying ( to me ).

          Build quality, comfort, … the VW is miles ahead of tesla. But software-wise I feel they are still lagging behind. It also feels like the compute power in their id5 ( based on a rental I drove around for 3 months ) is some cheap tablet you get for free with a subscription to a magazine which is very disappointing considering the car costs 50k.

          I agree that the Tesla software feels pretty mature and stable ( infotainment/app ).

          Note: wouldn’t buy a Tesla either or trade in this VW for one.

          Source: drove around a Tesla company car for a while

          I have no experience with other brands besides the VW and the Tesla.

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      Tesla still had a small edge over the competition.

      Too bad they wasted it all on things like “fart mode” and games instead of useful features like improved speech recognition and integrating it with things like the radio, Bluetooth, etc.

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      Agreed. I’ve used the infotainment on EVs from Kia, Toyota, Cadillac, and Hyundai so far and Tesla is so much smoother and seamless and intuitive.

      And don’t get me started on the mobile app and API access. Toyota’s mobile app might be the worst in the industry, dear god it’s bad. It crashes during setup and the salesperson just said, “Yeah that’s normal it’s why it only has 2 stars”.

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          NGL, I’d really like to have an app to control my car for starting and climate control. But I want full control of it, on my terms, and I know that’s never gonna happen.