Example: I believe that IP is a direct contradiction of nature, sacrificing the advancement of humanity and the world for selfish gain, and therefore is sinful.

Edit: pls do not downvote the comments this is a constructive discussion

Edit2: IP= intellectal property

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  • mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    73·
    11 hours ago

    I think a lot of the liberal attacks were more of a “there’s a time and place, and this is neither” issue. The Genocide Joe posters were at their peak right as Trump (who straight up said he’d be worse about genocide than Joe was) was at the height of his campaign. The big difference was more about whether “perfect” should get in the way of “good enough.” Nobody thought Joe (and later Kamala) was the perfect candidate. But they thought it would be better than Trump.

    If you live in a state that’s 100% guaranteed to go blue, then sure, abstain your vote in protest. After all, it won’t make a difference. But if you lived in a swing state, then abstaining was the same as saying “I don’t care who wins, even if it makes the genocide measurably worse in every way.” It’s cutting off your nose to spite your face, while also trying to claim moral superiority. Refusing to vote for a democrat because of the genocide was like handing a flamethrower to a compulsive arsonist, because the current administration didn’t do enough to support firefighters.

    The end goal should have been to keep things from getting worse first, before you focus on hammering the genocide before the midterms. But apparently people on high horses don’t know how to play the long game.

    • UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.mlEnglish
      1·
      13 minutes ago

      I think a lot of the liberal attacks were more of a “there’s a time and place, and this is neither” issue.

      I don’t see democrats pushing to change the voting system so people can vote how they want and transfer their vote if their preference doesn’t win. Republicans and democrats love First-past-the-post voting and the hostage situation it will always be.

      The time is now, the place is here. For a political party that prides themselves as great advocates.of democracy, why are democrats preventing people from voting how they want in the blue states they control? Sounds like something a Republican would do.

      While simultaneously screeching at people during election seasons that voting outside the two party system is a wasted vote. Encouraging voters to “hold their nose” in the “most important election ever”. This shows their hand. Democrats understand that FPTP voting is undemocratic and doesn’t represent people well.

      Yet… crickets on electoral reform.

      I guarantee you the usual suspects will be posting and commenting here about 3rd party voters when the mid terms roll around. All while doing nothing to change the voting system.

      I’ve casted my last damage control vote for the democrats. If they want a vote from me, they can implement these very reasonable reforms so I can transfer my vote to them if my first 10 picks don’t win

      Electoral Reform Videos

      First Past The Post voting (What most states use now)

      Videos on alternative electoral systems

      STAR voting

      Alternative vote

      Ranked Choice voting

      Range Voting

      Single Transferable Vote

      Mixed Member Proportional representation

    • WarlordSdocy@lemmy.world
      6·
      10 hours ago

      The problem I’ve found is that liberals will say that “Now is not the right time” all the time and there never ends up being a right time to talk about it. It feels like a cycle of right before the election so can’t talk about, right after the election so can’t talk about since they haven’t had time to address it, then the midterms are coming up so can’t talk about it, then right after the midterms they don’t have the power to address it anymore so can’t talk about it, then the presidential election is coming back up again so can’t talk about it. There’s also the fact that more people pay attention during election seasons so talking about it then allows you to reach the most people. And at the end of the day all it would take to get these people on your side would be to oppose the genocide. It would have some impact but I would say the majority of voters who care about Israel enough to change their vote based on it were probably already voting Trump with how pro Israel he is, so you would be gaining many more voters than you lose.

      • OBJECTION!@lemmy.ml
        4·
        9 hours ago

        We know through painful experience that freedom is never voluntarily given by the oppressor; it must be demanded by the oppressed. Frankly, I have never yet engaged in a direct-action movement that was “well timed” according to the timetable of those who have not suffered unduly from the disease of segregation. For years now I have heard the word “wait.” It rings in the ear of every Negro with a piercing familiarity. This “wait” has almost always meant “never.” It has been a tranquilizing thalidomide, relieving the emotional stress for a moment, only to give birth to an ill-formed infant of frustration. We must come to see with the distinguished jurist of yesterday that “justice too long delayed is justice denied.”