Example: I believe that IP is a direct contradiction of nature, sacrificing the advancement of humanity and the world for selfish gain, and therefore is sinful.

Edit: pls do not downvote the comments this is a constructive discussion

Edit2: IP= intellectal property

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  • jwmgregory@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    9 hours ago

    this is always how people respond to anti-IP sentiment. i’m actually glad OP was specific enough to not just say copyright and expand his condemnation to IP generally. i agree with the OP that IP is such a brazen violation of nature as to be sinful, and im not really religious.

    in what world does your strawman argument here exist? bc it certainly isn’t this one. don’t believe their noble lies that IP and copyright legislation is somehow good for artists. people now, with copyright, are literally “steamrolled” just the same way you suggest in your hypothetical. all those people making fan art and media through no small commitment of their time are forced into a black market because it is literally illegal to draw and sell mickey mouse. but i suppose that isn’t “real” art and doesn’t “deserve” to be protected by the law the same way? dude get your head out of your ass. do you not see how illogical the entire premise is? this is an assault on you and your peers. it’s quite literally fascist at best. and no this isn’t some woke fucking rambling. this is a real tool of oppression used against us that is so well-honed people like yourself beg for the boot.

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      It doesn’t exist? I can write a book and someone can steal it. I can develop a product, shark tank style, and just have a big company steal it.

      The fact that you think someone should be able to write a book or make art and not own it is crazy to me. That’s just letting rich people own everything because the have enough money to stomp you out.

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        8 hours ago

        no. my point is that the world we live in now is the one you are describing. if rich people are the only ones able to afford litigation to support their copyright, then it might as well only exist for them. they do own everything, with the way things currently work.

        the solution is, yes, crazily enough not attaching an arbitrary monetary value to information that is fundamentally free to produce and distribute.

        you’re brainwashed, man.

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          7 hours ago

          I’m brain washed? Lol, ok, since you want to make this about the people in the argument and not the topic itself fine, but it’s still worth pointing out how you’re wrong.

          You came across as an I’m 13, and this is a deep post. I get it. You hate rich people; we all do, but you clearly have no idea how IP laws work, thinking it’s just the guy with the most money running around stealing stuff lol. You have some fantasy in your head where if we open everything up it’ll be all better. Ignoring the reality of how laws and lobbying worry, ignoring how patents work, ignoring how you don’t need millions to fight an IP case. I mean how did every famous author make money? They owned their own works. You are sorely misinformed about a topic you have more feelings about than facts.

          if rich people are the only ones able to afford litigation to support their copyright

          This is %100 not the case. Small mom and pop grocery stores have won cases against Apple. You’re just making stuff up, and I’m brainwashed? lol

          it might as well only exist for them

          No. Fully no. There are tons of authors, artists, and inventors who have made money off their inventions. You live in some other reality where no one owns anything right now. What you’re saying is they shouldn’t have the sole rights to what they create, you want it to be even EASIER for the rich to take. Because right now, despite what your angsty self might think, that’s not how it’s happening. And what do we get? Oh, I can make my own iPhone now, wow, yah, I’ll get right on that.

          You are fighting FOR the rich at this point.

          You need to take a breath, educate yourself, and speak on the topic once you know it better instead of ranting about how you feel and think it should be, all from a place of ignorance.