• tischbier@feddit.org
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    In America you can refuse to have your biometrics scanned still. This is true for coming into and out internationally. Just politely say no. They cannot force you to scan your face. I always refuse.

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      I had a TSA agent say my name as I walked up to the booth. They 100% scanned me before I was in earshot of the agent.

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        I believe it. They disavow that they take any recordings of us before we approach but, while I’m not a suspicious person, I am suspicious of TSA and HLS. Heads up they’re going to start scanning our faces at physical border crossings in cars now too. We have the same right to refuse as citizens but you know how good that is if you’re dealing with a crooked agent.

        Masks help when approaching but obviously not a cure all when you have to move it to be identified by card

        I hate that this is a conversation we are having.

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          I’m old enough to remember them promising, repeatedly, that the nude scanners didn’t, couldn’t save images.

          Joke’s on them though. They can’t delete my pictures fast enough to avoid the trauma.

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          yeah it fuckin sucks. you dont need to believe it or not, I swear to you (it also happened to my wife, Im a US citizen and she isn’t) this was in the dublin ireland departures when you go to the states. you actually go through immigration when youre still in ireland. so you go down an escalator to a specific part of the airport thats sectioned off from the rest for this. walking up to the desk, before i had a chance to take my passport out of my bag, while I was still about 10 feet away, he TSA agent said “hello [name]” they did the same thing to my wife. its disarming as youre not expecting it. there’s no knowing where in the line the facial recognition already took place. the idea you can consent/not consent is almost certainly purely theater.

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      The only reason why US agencies have my fingerprint and biometrics is because of visa and TWIC applications. I still prefer doing things the analog way when entering.

      Being a foreigner crossing the border is annoying enough, even if I’m the “right” skin color entering legally. No need to have a shitty AI conclude “daymn he ugly” and deport me on a whim.

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      That privilege applies for citizens. But, if you are foreigners or just tourists. I do not think so