I keep seeing posts mentioning this phenomenon more and more often.

For instance:

More and more men are being sucked into parts of the internet that circulate misogynist content, leaving their families to deal with the wreckage

‘Andrew Tate phenomena’ surges in schools - with boys refusing to talk to female teacher

Like, why? Why now? Why even? I really wish I had a time machine where I could go to the future and ask them what the general reasons were for this social development. But I feel like I’m looking for the specific thorn on a cactus that popped my balloon.

  • PugJesus@lemmy.worldEnglish
    2410·
    7 days ago

    I think the decline of misogyny is the reason. As it’s not as normalized as it once was, yet still a very powerful lingering thread in our culture, men are seeking validation for it where they would have otherwise found validation for misogyny, unasked for and unconditionally, in their everyday social circles in previous eras.

    • mutual_ayed@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      32·
      7 days ago

      Tate is the very personification of misogyny. Are you saying misogyny is the default state of CIS/HET men?

        • mutual_ayed@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          21·
          7 days ago

          Yes and the patriarchy harms all genders including males.

          But you’re not answering my question directly.

            • mutual_ayed@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
              22·
              7 days ago

              Cool thanks for the clarification. So it sounds like you’re saying Tate is a symptom of the last gasps of misogyny. Is that a close enough approximation? Not trying to strawman your argument just looking for clarity.

              • PugJesus@lemmy.worldEnglish
                4·
                7 days ago

                “Last gasps” is a strong word, but symptomatic of a weakening of misogyny in general society, yes. Time will tell if this weakening is another step towards crushing that particular bigotry, or if it’ll experience a second wind in these sickened circumstances.