I disagree and cannot condone this statement, as it inevitably harms those you are trying to save. It denies them of their feelings in favor or preserving the status quo, which brought them to that situation in the first place. It is selfish at best and manipulative cult-like behaviour at worst.
Suicide has been labeled wrong because it harms the society the individual lives in. The surrounding community will lose one contributing member and gain only pain from the loss.
However one has no right to decide over the lives of others, and there are fates worse than a quick death. If you want to help, accept that people have those thoughts, because they are natural, as we can only bear torment for a certain amount of time. Don’t punish them for wanting to have peace, help them to get peace in some other way, if possible.
Suicide is bad, but not wrong. What is wrong is not helping others who are hurting in any way one can.
First of all, when learning about helping those with suicidal thoughts, one of the first thngs you learn is that trying to tell them that their departure will hurt those around you will drive them even more into suicide due to the added pressure.
Secondly, by not hearing someone fully out, all you do is cementing yours and the other’s opinions. If you really want to change things, listen to the other and try to reason with the other on why their reasoning is faulty.
I do apologize if my post was a bit emotionally loaded, since it is a topic that hits very close to home, as someone with a past of suicidal thoughts. And I know how much it hurts to lose someone. Yes one has to remember that someone suffering from depression does not think sane. The main thing one should always do is make the other feel heard, because they will think that no one does. Show them that they are not alone against their own thoughts, because they will think they are. Signal to them that you are an ally for them, as they will think everyone is a threat.
I disagree and cannot condone this statement, as it inevitably harms those you are trying to save. It denies them of their feelings in favor or preserving the status quo, which brought them to that situation in the first place. It is selfish at best and manipulative cult-like behaviour at worst.
Suicide has been labeled wrong because it harms the society the individual lives in. The surrounding community will lose one contributing member and gain only pain from the loss.
However one has no right to decide over the lives of others, and there are fates worse than a quick death. If you want to help, accept that people have those thoughts, because they are natural, as we can only bear torment for a certain amount of time. Don’t punish them for wanting to have peace, help them to get peace in some other way, if possible.
Suicide is bad, but not wrong. What is wrong is not helping others who are hurting in any way one can.
Telling people not to kill themselves is “manipulative cult-like behavior”???
I’m not even going to bother to read the rest of that, go outside please!
First of all, when learning about helping those with suicidal thoughts, one of the first thngs you learn is that trying to tell them that their departure will hurt those around you will drive them even more into suicide due to the added pressure.
Secondly, by not hearing someone fully out, all you do is cementing yours and the other’s opinions. If you really want to change things, listen to the other and try to reason with the other on why their reasoning is faulty.
I do apologize if my post was a bit emotionally loaded, since it is a topic that hits very close to home, as someone with a past of suicidal thoughts. And I know how much it hurts to lose someone. Yes one has to remember that someone suffering from depression does not think sane. The main thing one should always do is make the other feel heard, because they will think that no one does. Show them that they are not alone against their own thoughts, because they will think they are. Signal to them that you are an ally for them, as they will think everyone is a threat.