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return2ozma@lemmy.world to News@lemmy.world · 9 days ago

Democrats are all but done with Trump impeachment talk

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Democrats are all but done with Trump impeachment talk

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return2ozma@lemmy.world to News@lemmy.world · 9 days ago
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Activists demand it, but the party’s electeds say they’ve learned it doesn’t work.
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  • kreskin@lemmy.world
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    Dems are awfully busy voting for whatever the republicans tell them to vote for. Who has the time for impeachment proceedings? Lots of bills to pass.

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    I’m sorry, but they swore oaths to the Constitution. It’s not about practicality or what’s politically expedient—it is their duty to impeach if the president commits crimes in office, which he has. Do your fucking jobs. Wtf.

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      They’ve filed a bunch of articles already. House speaker is a Republican.

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      Democrats are feeling constant pressure from their base to disrupt the Trump administration, admitting to frustrated voters that they have no real leverage outside of the courts unless they win back at least one chamber of Congress

      anything they can do about that?

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        Its not that they are trying and aren tsucceeding, its that they never even try and do not have a party platform at all.

        How many betrayals since mid January from our own party?

        dems voted for laken riley to massively increase deportments and limit due process https://rollcall.com/2025/01/20/democrats-senate-laken-riley-act/

        voted to lets trumps budget proceed, https://time.com/7268499/senate-democrats-budget-vote/

        voted for the take it down act to gut free speech https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2025/04/congress-passes-take-it-down-act-despite-major-flaws

        voted against gun control https://www.newsweek.com/democrats-vote-against-gun-control-surprise-move-2067263

        voted to gut climate laws https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/six-democrats-break-ranks-to-help-republicans-overturn-biden-climate-regulations/ss-AA1BOn6C#image=2

        Joined republicans to pass a law to massively increase defense budget https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2025/04/29/congress/dems-join-gop-to-boost-defense-spending-00317618

        Joined republicans to take control of university partnerships and relationships with foreign universities https://jonathancohn.medium.com/31-house-democrats-join-the-gops-latest-assault-on-higher-ed-redux-90503b4ea3bd

        Had enough Dem members “absent” that they couldnt block a tarriff vote https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5278333-senate-democrats-tariff-vote/

        Joined republicans to vote to censure Al greene for protesting Trumps speech https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/06/politics/al-green-censure-trump-protest-house/index.html

        Joined republicans to threaten nonprofit groups that voiced any concern for Palestinian lives https://www.commondreams.org/news/hr-9495-passed

        Joined republicans to advance trumps crypto grift plan https://www.newsweek.com/democrats-are-joining-republicans-trumps-alarming-crypto-agenda-opinion-2041377 and https://youngkim.house.gov/2024/05/23/democrats-join-republicans-to-pass-fit21-act-a-new-era-for-crypto-regulation-in-the-u-s/

        Joined republicans to kill drilling environmental rules https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2025/02/25/congress/democrats-republicans-cra-drilling-rule-00206128

        Joined republicans to ban any sanctuary city policies in the state of New Hampshire https://newhampshirebulletin.com/2025/02/07/house-democrats-join-republicans-in-passing-anti-sanctuary-city-bill-pointing-to-compromise/

        voted against their party on new voter ID laws that make it harder for married women who changed their name to vote. https://www.newsweek.com/full-list-democrats-who-voted-pass-save-act-2058404

        all reaching across the aisle and folding on important fights, just Like Biden urged them to do in his farewell address https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/biden-urges-incoming-democratic-lawmakers-to-reach-across-the-aisle-during-trumps-term

        And then they whine that they are simply powerless after they betray us again and again.

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          good references i read them all

          dare i say it

          BUT GROW A SPINE AND VOTE DEMOCRAT

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            I dont think dems can win another election at this point. They are hated by their own voters now, because of stuff like I listed above, and I dont imagine they will stop doing this self sabotaging stuff. So its time for something besides dem vs rethug.

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        Publicily advocate their base join grassroots and decentralized movements that enact direct action since the courts and political system are completely captured by fascists and time is of the essence?

        Seems like that’d be a bit more useful than what they’re doing now, which is effectively nothing.

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          that’s my point they can’t do anything about impeachment, but people are shouting at the democrats like they should occupy the government or else the are nazi collaborators. the far left campaigning hard against the democrats and helping trump as always

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      I hope you voted for Harris and didn’t skip it.

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    Stop talking and fucking do something!

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      Well, you get part of your wish. The article’s about how they’re going to stop talking and not do anything.

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    Well yeah he was impeached twice on his first term and that did absolutely jack shit.

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      Without 13 red turncoats it accomplishes nothing except take up debate time slots, which might be worthwhile tbh.

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    On the one hand I’m furious. On the other hand it’s absolutely understandable seeing how infested things are with fascists right now. That it would have really only been for show. And that effort might be more effective elsewhere. There is going to be some effort somewhere right? Guys? Guys!?

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      That’s the thing, an impeachment proceeding would at least create a government record of what evidence there is of what crimes and impeachable offenses there are, and the backup plan seems to be to hope they can win midterms

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        And any amount of time the GOP spends defending their criminal King is time they aren’t actively fucking everyone over.

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        Ideally, absolutely. Realistically I don’t think they care about a record of their crimes. They’re committing them in Broad daylight. And daring anyone to do anything about it. There will be plenty to record whether or not any impeachment is pushed. If it can mean action can be put somewhere to make a real difference I’m all for it. Yes I’d like to see all the crimes cataloged etc. But that is getting to be a Herculean task at this point. They commit them like breathing. Two things they shouldn’t do.

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          They should just plan for a 1 and a half year impeachment proceeding, run a lot of their candidates on being antitrump and pro impeachment, and obstruct or boycott all remaining legislative processes possible until the Trump administration submits to a rule of law. If they play a long game of it, it can help them win midterms. By then, they could have the votes and have made the case.

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            They’d have to flip every Senate seat that is up for vote from here till 2026, and even then it’d be close.

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      As always, most of their effort will be used to try and stifle progressives.

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    They don’t have enough votes, and Republicans are all too scared of Trump to vote against him.

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      they arent even trying. They cross the aisle to vote with republicans all the time now.

      Google “dems join republicans” and feast your eyes on the betrayals, one after another.

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      They probably could get enough votes for impeachment, not enough in the Senate to remove him. So it would be career suicide for any Republican to vote to impeach him. As they know there would be retribution for fulfilling their oath.

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        Nah, they wouldn’t even be able to get enough votes for impeachment.

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          There are Republicans who voted to impeach Trump and called him guilty previously, who are still in the Senate. It’s definitely possible, I just dont see them doing it knowing it will make them become targets after the Senate doesn’t remove him

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    I don’t know any actual activists who are foolish enough to think Impeachment would do anything. Just liberals LARPing in the streets while it’s safe.

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