I’ll be that guy that enjoyed The Last Jedi explicitly because it was something different, and leaned into more of the mystical side of the force while on the “big screen.”
Edit and spoiler just in case
I just remembered the hyperspace “weapon” moment, and both how cool it was and how much it could affect the empire. They probably didn’t mean for it, but that you could effectively point and shoot a ship like that was an amazing usage.
I think episode 7, 8, 9 would have been better if 7 had flipped the script rather than being a story analog to 4. Whole movie could have been largely the same, but rather than the Resistance stopping the First Order at the end, let the First Order win - let Starkiller Base succeed in blowing up the Resistance’ base planet and achieve, for all intents and purposes, total victory. It would have come as a shock to viewers (especially given how close the macro plot adhered to episode 4), and they could have made the rest of the new trilogy about the scattered remnants of the resistance trying to get their shit together and field some kind of opposition against overwhelming, impossible odds.
I specifically didn’t like that scene because it’s a massive departure from the lore of all the other films. If they could just do that, why haven’t both sides been doing that all the time? Is it supposed to be that this group is the first group to try this, with the tech that has been around for at least a few centuries? If they had all died in the process I’d be more ok with that, although that also seems like a departure from how hyperspace works in the other films.
why haven’t both sides been doing that all the time?
I feel like this can at least be backed up. It should be ridiculously costly in terms of sheer resources and personnel, and therefore utterly foolish in 99% of scenarios.
We can posit that hyperspace generators should be expensive in terms of resources and credits, and should get exponentially more expensive as the ship size increases, so making “hyperspace warheads” should also be foolish…
But on the other hand, to take down something like the Death Star, I imagine such a maneuver would have seemed worth it!
I think that sums up why the last two sequel films bothered me so much: They went for emotional "woah!"s by pulling things out of nowhere unexpectedly…But then you think about it for 5 seconds and it all falls apart quick.
I was ok with using the ship as a suicidal torpedo, but I wasn’t ok with a single person being able to fully maneuver the thing all by herself, or the ensuing space rip conveniently doing that V shape and getting all 3 ships.
But the bombing run at the beginning of the movie really set the tone for “Prepare to be sorely disappointed”
I’ll be that guy that enjoyed The Last Jedi explicitly because it was something different, and leaned into more of the mystical side of the force while on the “big screen.”
Edit and spoiler just in case
I just remembered the hyperspace “weapon” moment, and both how cool it was and how much it could affect the empire. They probably didn’t mean for it, but that you could effectively point and shoot a ship like that was an amazing usage.
I think episode 7, 8, 9 would have been better if 7 had flipped the script rather than being a story analog to 4. Whole movie could have been largely the same, but rather than the Resistance stopping the First Order at the end, let the First Order win - let Starkiller Base succeed in blowing up the Resistance’ base planet and achieve, for all intents and purposes, total victory. It would have come as a shock to viewers (especially given how close the macro plot adhered to episode 4), and they could have made the rest of the new trilogy about the scattered remnants of the resistance trying to get their shit together and field some kind of opposition against overwhelming, impossible odds.
In response to your spoiler:
I specifically didn’t like that scene because it’s a massive departure from the lore of all the other films. If they could just do that, why haven’t both sides been doing that all the time? Is it supposed to be that this group is the first group to try this, with the tech that has been around for at least a few centuries? If they had all died in the process I’d be more ok with that, although that also seems like a departure from how hyperspace works in the other films.
I feel like this can at least be backed up. It should be ridiculously costly in terms of sheer resources and personnel, and therefore utterly foolish in 99% of scenarios.
We can posit that hyperspace generators should be expensive in terms of resources and credits, and should get exponentially more expensive as the ship size increases, so making “hyperspace warheads” should also be foolish…
But on the other hand, to take down something like the Death Star, I imagine such a maneuver would have seemed worth it!
I think that sums up why the last two sequel films bothered me so much: They went for emotional "woah!"s by pulling things out of nowhere unexpectedly…But then you think about it for 5 seconds and it all falls apart quick.
I was ok with using the ship as a suicidal torpedo, but I wasn’t ok with a single person being able to fully maneuver the thing all by herself, or the ensuing space rip conveniently doing that V shape and getting all 3 ships.
But the bombing run at the beginning of the movie really set the tone for “Prepare to be sorely disappointed”
What a stupid, stupid, stupid design for a ‘space’ bomber. Just utterly stupid. I can’t say stupid enough.
They really took original Star Wars’ “WWII in Space” battles to the ridiculous extreme there, for sure lol.
The Last Jedi was a good movie, it just wasn’t a good Star Wars movie.
Nah, even if it wasn’t Star Wars, it’d be 6/10 at best