• mctoasterson@reddthat.com
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    21 hours ago

    It fucked them because it locked them into Harris, who was also a uniquely awful candidate. It screwed voters out of having a meaningful primary with real debate about issues.

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      20 hours ago

      Ahh yes, one of the most qualified people to run for the seat, totally an awful candidate.

      No, what was awful was the “won’t change” shift, and the courting undesirables from the right. Her campaign fucked up, and now we’re left with a literal fucking Nazi Fascist admin.

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        18 hours ago

        She’s new Hillary. They ran Hillary against him again but younger and with a tan. Instead of of allowing the possibility of Sanders in 2016 or AOC in 2024 they threw “the game” twice.

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        19 hours ago

        So qualified she dropped out of primaries in 2020 at 3% in the polls. She was a tool the entire time. No one with half a brain wanted to vote for her, they just didn’t have a fucking choice.

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            Not really you’re just missing the point, jobs can have multiple requirements for qualification. Biden failed the same test in the polls as Harris did, primary’s dont make you president, they make you a candidate.

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          Pete is also an incredibly qualified person and dropped out, too. Just because people didn’t vote for her, doesn’t mean she isn’t qualified. It means many voters are stupid. Case in point, the current president and his 75+ million fascist voters.

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            I swear to god if they run Pete (which seems like he’s gearing up for it) I will explode from sheer rage. Pete has nothing to offer but more of the same. I hate hearing people pretend like he has a chance. It’s absolute delusion and is exactly the problem with all the other democrats. He is uninspiring and we will loose and it will be our fault.

            Medicare for all who want it. Lmaoooooooooo. So upsetting. I’ve never heard a democrat say something more cringe and I watched Hillary say Pokémon go to the polls live.

            Your main point that dropping out does not equate to being a bad candidate is valid though.

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            Stupid voters or not, the job by definition requires you get the votes. If you can’t pull votes you are unqualified. It’s not a trick statement it’s in the job description.

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          18 hours ago

          That was 4 years before she, you know, was vice president for 4 years. That tends to provide valuable experience.

          I’m not gonna pretend I liked her but she wasn’t a bad candidate to begin a campaign with. But then she ran to the right in an insane way

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            18 hours ago

            Polished turds are just shiny turds. She was always unlikable, people only latched on to her because of the despair Biden had the party in before he dropped out. It was a simple overcorrection in sentiment that wasted away from her failure to inspire anything, just like she failed in 2020. No amount of on the job experience teaches the lessons she failed to learn twice.

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              If you think even 50% of her campaign decision making reflected her personal politics you are mistaken about how the DNC operates.

              As I said, on paper she was a fine candidate to start a campaign with. She could have easily converted a win if the party as a whole hadn’t totally rejected anything progressive long before she took to the campaign trail.

              People forget that after you get elected you still have to collaborate with Congress. Presidential candidates are absolutely beholden to the will of the DNC, and their party platform. They will not hesitate to torpedo a presidency as retaliation for failing to toe the company line