I feel like every story has a plot hole.

Especially time travel stories, none of them ever has a consistant rule of time travel.

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    1 day ago

    Tbf the characters don’t have to understand or explain anything. If there is a way for the internal logic of the movie to work without contradicting itself, that should be good enough for no plot holes.

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      The point though is they partially avoid contradictions by baking into the story that we and they don’t know anything.

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        22 hours ago

        We still know what we see. Many movies are equally vague about the actual mechanics and still introduce contradictions.

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          Yes but this movie hinges on being technical and appearing specific. It’s kind of an interesting sleight of hand. They keep saying what the rules are but they don’t actually know the rules. There’s nothing to contradict. Literally the end of the movie is “how did this dude find out and travel back?” They have no clue what happened, they don’t know the rules, the possibilities are endless.

          They assume getting back in the box takes care of doubles. They are bleeding from their ears and losing fine motor skills. They are just guessing all the time, which means the rules aren’t defined and can’t really be contradicted.

          All we see are end results from the perspective of two guys too clever and reckless and unethical for their own good. We know almost nothing for sure.

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            10 hours ago

            Ideally you shouldn’t completely trust the characters either way. But ok it might be easier for the movie to avoid issues when there’s little info. It gives more work to the viewer too.

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              It definitely gives a lot of work to the viewer, especially the last 15 minutes or so. I find most people who are kind of getting it typically lose the thread during the Granger debacle, sometimes during the party scene.

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                5 hours ago

                So I had nothing to do tonight and went back and rewatched it.

                Not sure if spoilers but just in case

                There’s something more frustrating than the characters not knowing what they’re doing. In many parts we don’t get to see what happened. The whole movie seems to be from the perspective of one version of Aaron who wasn’t even there most of the time(?) And some parts that he did experience are glanced over so you can’t say for sure if there is a plot hole or not. The part where he finds himself going back twice in the same place is kinda weird but can probably be explained with the information we have.