Recently tried an Impossible burger and nuggets and thought that if nobody told me it wasn’t meat, I’d have thought the patty was made out of a weird kind of meat, rather than make a connection with the taste and texture of plants. Honestly, I might not complain if that was the only kind of “meat” I could have for the rest of my life.

Well, maybe I’d miss bacon.

I’ve yet to find the opportunity to try lab-grown meat, but I for sure would like to try it out and don’t see much wrong with it as long as it’s sustainable, reasonably priced, and doesn’t have anything you wouldn’t expect in a normal piece of meat.

Also, with imitation and lab-grown options, I’d no longer have to deal with the disgust factor of handling raw meat (esp. the juices) or biting into gristle. I’ll happily devour a hot dog, but something about an unexpected bit of cartilage gives me a lingering sense of revulsion.

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    I’m all for it.

    Gimme that vat grown cloned shit. I don’t care. Meat is meat. If my guts recognize it as protein then that’s all that matters.

    If I had my druthers I’d get rid of industrial meat farming entirely. It is a major contributor to climate change. Plus all the death involved.

    And while I was at it I’d end industrial farming all together. We could convert a state or 2 worth of farmland into hydroponic and feed the world. Instead we engineer scarcity and guarantee starvation for profit. It’s fuckin disgusting.

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    If they’re tasty, no less unhealthy, and affordable, I’ll eat ’em. Grown muscle tissue isn’t connected to a nervous system, never mind a brain. They’re no more “animal” than tofu as far as I’m concerned.

    But I can think of a couple of major likely problems:

    1. They’ll probably still require more resources (energy, water, etc.) to produce than plants, so I’d probably limit my consumption.
    2. Given the history of capitalism and the meat industry, I’d be suspicious of them still harming animals behind the curtain somewhere, somehow. The industry ought to be heavily regulated to ensure they aren’t doing that, but again, history shows that under late capitalism they probably won’t be.
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      no less unhealthy

      Yeah, given the history of capitalism, that will not happen. Look, they even made real meat unhealthy just to increase the profit (meat “yield” from animal), with lab-grown meat they would cut corners even further.

      Chickens we are given today weight at least 5 times more than chicken 50 years ago (or “heritage breed”) and reach that weight in 6 weeks vs a year. To even buy a heritage breed chicken you need to have time, money and know-how, and you’re still likely to get just a 100 days old chicken.

      I can’t even predict how they will enshittify lab-grown meat if it’s ever perfected.

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    I find it so strange that people think handling meat and biting grissle is revolting, but not the fact that you’re eating a dead creature that had a life. There is clearly some weird compartmentalization happening separating “meat” from living creature.

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      I think part of it is the fact that raw meat gets you sick, and people are afraid of the germs more so than the ethics of it.

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        the كبة نية enjoyers would like to have a word with you.

        As far as I understand it’s best to eat raw meat on the same day it is cut to lessen those risks. And speaking of cuts, it may also be that not many people witness the animal being killed, skinned and cut to be turned into food, so it’s easier to consume.

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      Plants are living creatures as well

      If living and creature are the characteristics we have issue with, we’ll be left with mostly fruits and nuts to eat. Is there a more specific description to your objection? It feels overly broad otherwise

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    Imitation meat is very highly processed food. I’ve never had lab grown meat, I’d need to know the details to judge it

    I do like me a good bean burger though…I make big batches of dried beans and mash them, it’s great on rice, as a dip, you can fry it, you can add whatever you want to make infinite variations

    But every once in a while I like to have a good burger. Like a few times a year… Honestly, if anything, meat tastes better because I rarely eat it.

    Imitation stuff just doesn’t compare, maybe you could convince me it’s meat, but you’ll never convince me it’s better than “ok”. And plenty of meat is just ok… Most of it even

    I’d rather eat my beans every day, and eat my steak and tuna a few times a year and enjoy every moment of it

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    I think it’s okay, the Impossible stuff gets pretty close to what they’re imitating.

    But I also think I’m not really their target audience… like I’m okay with a veggie burger tasting like veggie. I’m not really looking for something that tastes like beef or whatever. These products like the Impossible burger aren’t targeting vegetarian/vegan shoppers, maybe their niche are the meat eaters curious about trying to cut down on meat consumption which is okay.

    There’s definitely an opportunity to lower or even eliminate all the factory farming and animal abuse if some sort of meat replacement manages to catch on in a big way. We’re not quite there yet but you never know how things will work out in the future.

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    Imitation meats have never impressed me. They get close, but they inevitably fall just enough short of tasting and feeling like real meat that it feels to me like a wasted effort. I think I’d like them better, oddly enough, if they didn’t even pretend to be meat - if they were marketed as something else entirely.

    I love the concept of lab-grown meat, and it seems as if it should be without issue, since it basically is meat in all senses, except that it’s grown in a vat instead of inside an animal’s skin. But since I haven’t had a chance to try it, I can’t say.

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      That’s basically the approach of gardien. You can tell it’s not the real deal but it’s so good you don’t care

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    Can’t wait for a future, where all livestock is raised on free-range farms, and treated like pampered pets, with all their earthly needs, more than satisfied. All that would ever be required of them, is to provide the occasional tissue sample to keep the cloning stock fresh. But other than that, they would live long and happy lives, under the care of kind and gentle human attendants.

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      Sorry, best I can do is the sci fi dystopian option where we grow entire cows in vats, but we make it humane by just growing them without brains.

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    I would rather eat a meal that doesn’t pretend to be meat and just be it’s own tasty thing. I don’t need a steak, but I do want a delicious savory thing.

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    I feel like Impossible nails it with their nuggets. The patties, not so much. Morningstar does a remarkable job for franks and corn dogs, but again, not patties. The best patties I’ve found so far is Beyond Meat.

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    Meat is meat, and growing it in a lab means cattle won’t have to suffer the conditions of the average meat farm. Also means less greenhouse gasses from cattle.

    Animals don’t have to suffer to make a steak taste good.

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    I love a good impossible burger over a normal burger for the big reason of how I feel after. Eating a normal burger as I am getting older means that I feel full in a gross way after, like I can feel the fat from the burger slowing me down, and I feel tired both physically and mentally and I sometimes feel borderline sick for an hour or so after. But with the impossible burgers I can just feel full in a healthy way. I love it. I will admit to also getting it with bacon though for that extra flavor.

    I an pretty anti factory farm and love the idea of cutting out at least burgers from their industry. I also enjoy their sausages. Highly recommend them if you have not tried them. I try to cut out bulk meat eating for the environment and keep it to occasional, smaller portions, and even then it is normally chicken. Impossible meat helps scratch that itch if I want some meat but don’t want to commit to blowing my personal weekly allotment of red meat.

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    Lab-grown meat can’t come fast enough.
    I’ve never seen it being sold in the supermarkets,
    but I agree with what one tv show host has said it best:
    “Why would anyone have more contanimation concerns of meat grown in a clean lab when this person eats meat cultivated in a dirty stall with poop on every wall?”

    For imitation meat, the stuff that’s cheaper is not better.
    It’s cheaper nonetheless.
    And the only better-than-the-real-thing imitation meat out there is a more expensive hamburger.

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    I don’t like to eat meat, so I also don’t like to eat things that remind me of meat.

    I want plants that feel taste and smell like plants, please.

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      Same. What has been really disappointing for me is that a lot of places where my only option used to be a black bean burger have now replaced that with an impossible or beyond burger. It’s great for people who are trying to cut back on meat consumption so I like that they exist but please stop replacing my black bean burgers!

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      Which is a perfectly reasonable and valid preference

      I personally like the taste of meat, but would prefer eating plants. Meat replacements are perfect for me

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      I swear people would rather spend a fortune developing sci-fi meat than spend pennies on beans and peas.

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    I’d be fine with lab grown meat, I’d actually prefer it, for health and safety reasons. Real meat is dirty.