• James R Kirk@startrek.website
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    4 months ago

    🤞pleasejustpickbazzite pleasejustpickbazzite pleasejustpickbazzite🤞

    I’m going to install CachyOS, an Arch-based distro

    oh god dammit

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      4 months ago

      CachyOS has been flawless on my S/O’s desktop. From an easy install to plenty of documentation available, I couldn’t have asked for much more. During install, there’s an entire step dedicated to checking a box if you want to play games. (To enable non-free drivers).

      I don’t think it was a poor choice.

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          4 months ago

          They didn’t say it required documentation, they said it had plenty of documentation should you need it.

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              4 months ago

              Just a heads up- You appear to be interpreting things in a strictly literal sense.

              Some people might view this as trolling.

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              4 months ago

              Damnit, you’re right!

              But for real, I think you misunderstand the point of documentation. Even if something were truly, literally flawless, having documentation would still be a net gain. It isn’t only to fix something when it goes wrong, but explains how things are working. If the only way for something to be literally flawless in your world view is for it to be so self explanatory that an idiot seeing it for the first time still understands it perfectly, nothing in computing can be flawless in that way.

              The pedantry on this point is so unhelpful as to be actively harmful to the rest of the discussion.

    • brucethemoose@lemmy.world
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      4 months ago

      Cachy’s not that bad for beginners. I just did a test install on an old Nvidia PC, and it works for gaming OOTB.

      We’ve come a looooong way from Manjaro. I wouldn’t wish Manjaro on my worst enemy, to be clear.

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      4 months ago

      I’M FED UP, GOING TO INSTALL LINUX!

      • picks a complicated distro where you really need to read the manual or do some heavy google searches to do gaming *

      I’M FED UP, THIS IS TOO HARD, I’M GOING BACK TO WINDOWS!

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      4 months ago

      Bazzite is much worse for a new user then cachy. Worse documentation and a load of quirks from being immutable.

      Frankly they would be better off with mint unless they need very up to date hardware support for like a laptop.

      • BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world
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        4 months ago

        I installed CachyOS for a weekend and it’s now been several months. I love it.

        But I would never, ever recommend it to a new user. It still requires someone to be comfortable on the command line and it’s possible to break it if you don’t know what you’re doing.

        Bazzite just works. You install it and start logging into your accounts. It’s nearly impossible for a newcomer to break, and perfect for the vast majority of new Linux users.

        Recommending Cachy to new users hurts not only those users but the entire Linux ecosystem.

        I don’t recommend Mint, either, but only because I am a KDE cultist, I hate Cinnamon, and every time I’ve tried it on anything I’ve had frustrating hardware issues that I have never had on Fedora.

        I’m BlameTheAntifa and I have a distro-hopping addiction.

      • Dragon Rider (drag)@lemmy.nz
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        4 months ago

        Bazzite is good for people who break their computer constantly because it’s harder to break. Cachy is better for people who can be trusted with sudo

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          2 months ago

          I broke CachyOS once and have learned to be more careful. First distro in 25 years so lots of learning to do. Was on Windows until 10 EOL.

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          4 months ago

          FYI to new users… Do not run any command without knowing what it does. Especially that one. Not even if they say “don’t worry, rm prevents you from deleting your hard drive’s contents now”, … like I fell for, 21 years ago. Doh!

          FYI to old users… Stop telling people to do that. It’s not funny. Getting new users to delete their root directory… not cool.

  • Kyden Fumofly@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    Me after using the KDE: how the fuck Linux is better Windows than Windows?

    They were supposed to focus on window managing, ITS IN THEIR FUCKING NAME. Instead you need extra things like Powertoys for basic functions that KDE has integrated.

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      Honestly W11 window management by default is better than KDE right now.

      This was true for W10, but not any more.

      KDE window outline defaults (don’t have a generic name for setting up the snap zones) take way more effort to set up than the windows version.

      I don’t think requiring powertoys for extra features matters that much because its supported by the same company. In my opinion, when having something not default truly sucks is when its third party and is finicky and fickle because it requires developers developing vs a moving target.

      When its an internal team, they have much more knowledge about how that target will be moving.

      Anyhow, that is to say, I think KDE is great, and completely competent, and I love the level of customizability by default, but it certainly has many flaws. Of course its biggest flaw is not its own fault, but that of the catch 22 situation needed to gain critical mass, and the average linux proselytizer doing everything in their power to ensure people don’t want to try linux by somehow imagining themselves to be the every user, and constantly doing that annoying thing where they both say linux is powerful, and that the faults dont matter because the average user doesn’t use any of said powerful features or they themselves, personally got used to the faults.

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        Oh yeah? Can you pin windows? Can you have windows always under the others or above them? Can you manage the buttons in the top ribbon? And dont even start with custom layout or the magnetic attach of windows in KDE.

        I didn’t download powertoys for fun. I needed a feature the windows did not have build in. After using KDE, even powertoys look basic to me.

        Edit: Just remembered windows opacity, custom windows rules for almost everything and many more settings.

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          I couldn’t use Windows without PowerToys ever again. BTW FancyZones is really good for Windows IMO, and it’s more work but I can mostly get what I want in KDE using KZones Kwin script. The other KDE window management benefits are a different story.