After 4 years of using Fedora KDE as my main OS with 0 issues or drawbacks, my workplace is now requiring all computers to be on Windows 11. Any suggestions to make the transition back more bearable?
My dissapointment is immeasurable, and my day is ruined :(
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Well, why? Compliance? ISO certification requirement? Any chance of providing the requirements to Linux?
Virtualize windows lmao
Winboat looks nice. I’m planning to play with it today. I’m also going to try distro box etc. Wish me a happy Virt-day. (yeah, yeah, I know where thee door is.)
At workplace, use whatever OS and tools allowed by company policy.
At home, use whatever OS and tools you like.
At least that is how I’m managing it.
Yeah exactly. Although it’s also totally understandable that OP is unhappy with their decision. At the end of the day any reasonably large workplace just wants all their IT to be as manageable as possible, which means as uniform as possible in hardware and OS. But using windows for many jobs just kinda sucks.
WSL is reasonable bearable, you can install Fedora instead of the default Ubuntu/Debian too. My work PC started out on 10 and is now on 11. I think I changed the terminal program, but the one I use may be the default in Win11. Honestly, I think the only programs I run outside WSL are a browser, DaVinci Resolve and Reaper (replaced Kdenlive and Ardour, both of which I prefer).
I am able to use the same neovim config on both my home (fedora) and work laptops, which is pretty handy.
At the end of the day it is their computer, not yours.
Doesn’t having WSL under the hood negate Linux’s inherent security?
I’d much rather have Windows shit containerized within Linux.
It is a VM so fully sandboxed. All the sharing is smoke and mirrors (often in pretty cool ways).
Truth is that security is not OP’s problem. Someone else (likely well above their pay grade) is shouldering that responsibility and they have decreed Windows for everyone.
It depends what you mean by ‘security’. Obviously, by introducing more layers, you have more places where exploits can life. However, the biggest threat by orders of magnitude is being tricked into giving stuff up, and that risk will remain constant.
https://github.com/ChrisTitusTech/winutil has some nice and simple buttons for reducing the bullshit.
Start doing a job search?
Get a separate device for work. You shouldn’t be working on your personal computer anyway.
It is a work device. I was just allowed to use fedora until now.
No amount of HRT would make this transition any easier my dude.
lmao
Tell them you can’t switch due to some incompatibility and then just don’t do it.
Just in the right moment when windows got so reliable and safe /s
How big is said workplace? Can you respectfully ask for an exemption? Don’t say Windows will make you miserable (it makes everyone miserable, apart from a few Microsoft bootlickers), talk about loss of productivity, reduced security and increased risk, and – if you can – challenge the grounds on which the change is being made.
Often, they are incapable of providing proper justification for the change. May not help, but you’ll have the minor satisfaction of knowing it is bullshit.
Depending on your computers specs & if it’s allowed or not by your company… You could always continue to use Fedora & run win-11 inside a VM with pass through enabled…
This is what I did. They get to manage a Windows machine and I get to continue being more efficient at the job they hired me to do.
Just use the shovel your boss gives you. Back to your own preferences once you clock out.
Meh, does “the boss” pay you to use a shovel or to dig stuff up?
It’s obvious OP is going to be miserable and less productive on Windows, it’s not to their employer’s benefit for that to happen.
Boss has different people for different functions within the company. A monoculture is more susceptible to systematic flaws, but it is also less expensive to maintain. It is not OPs place to decide how the company manages is computing facilities, so if WSL or Cygwin are not accepable compromises (OP and company have to both agree) then OP has to decide whether they are willing to go along with Windows or find another job.
Something to talk about during the exit interview anyway.
Sorry for your loss :( Same thing happened to me about a year ago.
I was the sole IT admin for a small company. Used Debian with KDE on a snappy little Thinkpad. No issues managing all the infra with it, even though most of it was MS trash. I used Reminnia for RDP into the Windows servers, and the Browser for all O365/Entra administration. A Windows 11 VM for the rare times I needed to test Windows-only apps or configs.
Worked like a dream, but then we got bought out by a huge competitor. Their IT team took everything over. I had to decommission my on-prem Linux servers, Ansible automations, Open Project tracking and FOSS ticketing system. Finally, I had to give up my Sweet little Linux Thinkpad and use their standard-issue HP Windows 11 garbage laptop. They were slow, clunky, buggy, and ugly, it was awful.
I quit a few months later after securing the job I have now. It pays about 35% more, has twice as much PTO, and about 50% of my workload is Linux stuff. It’s so much better.
My advice, if it’s truly non negotiable, install WSL first thing. It’s not nearly as good as having actual Linux, because it’s running inside of Microslop’s horrid OS, but it’s better than nothing. Try to be an advocate for FOSS at the company, see if you can convince leadership to let you implement Linux-based solutions wherever they might fit, make yourself the de facto expert on them so you at least get to work on Linux and FOSS infra.
Aside from that, start job hunting. Try to find a job that will let you be more Linuxy.
the last time i used wsl on a work windows laptop, windows fucked up the virtual disk drive and everything in it was gone.
this was about 5 years ago, so hopefully it’s gotten better.
Honestly WSL2 is pretty good now. I have Fedora running in it and use basically the same config files as my personal laptop. Neovim behaves exactly the same across both. The only problem I have is that CTRL+V get intercepted by the terminal before it get to vim. That means that block visual mode is not available to me.
That and multiple desktops feels REALLY clunky, even compare to Gnome.
The only problem I have is that CTRL+V get intercepted by the terminal before it get to vim. That means that block visual mode is not available to me
this was was my biggest gripe with wsl because i do 95% of my work with the vim and bash and i’m saddened to learn that it hasn’t gotten better.
Do not, under any circumstances, conduct any private business on it. What isn’t being logged by Microsoft and shared with your employer, advertisers, various governments will be screenshot’d every n seconds. Additionally, I highly suggest, if you haven’t already, to setup a separate VLAN for this device if you ever bring it home and connect it to your home network. Defender absolutely does passive sniffing and active network scanning now. It will also be collecting and logging visible SSIDs as well. Enjoy!
Do not, under any circumstances, conduct any private business on it.
This is true of any work device regardless of the OS
My wife has had her dog shit work PC on the network all this time without any of my forethought about this. She has problems everyday with that stupid OS. Fuck.
I’d like to add that you can setup Adguard or Pihole in your network to use microsoft telemetry blacklists to limit their sniffing. My work laptop constantly reminds me that I’m not connected to the internet although everything works fine, because it can’t reach the captive portal 😄
Do you have links to those blacklists
I’m at work right now, but here is one I think I remember adding: https://github.com/pschneider1968/pihole-bl-msft-telemetry-bsi
My company PC (Windows 11 ) is set on the guest wi-fi when I work from home, is that enough?
It should but you can test that assumption by trying to ping any other device on the non-guest wifi. (and try ping in the other direction)
One could hope for a hardware kill-switch on WiFi, but those are increasingly rare. I don’t necessarily trust toggling the WiFi slider off actually stops the scanning.
At home I have my PC behind a DMVPN router (being a former network engineer has its perks) and that DMVPN router’s “external” link is further segmented on my home network.
