There’s something extremely funny about the president of the US looking at what’s going on China and saying out loud, “Their economy is a ticking time bomb.” This is almost an onion news story.
Listen, Fat! The US economy is doing better than any economy has every done in history, Jack. I call it Bidenomics. Get with the program.
I’m disappointed, there’s no representation of him having interaction with supernatural beings.
Omfg you people really spam every China related thread on our site huh? Forcing us to endure seeing your annoying asses at every corner, is there no way to block every hexbear user?
why won’t you damn tankies let us lie about China??? STOP IT!! MODS!!!You’re the only lying manchilds here.
Fuck the CCP.
It’s actually the CPC, the Communist Party of China, the CCP is the Cuban Communist Party, hope this helps
Most people call it CCP, that’s even what’s taught in schools genius.
A damning condemnation of your education system, to be certain
Perfect response honestly
American schooling strikes again.
trust me i know everything about them ,( exept their actuall name … )
It VERBATIM translates to “CCP” in English. The CCP does not get to dictate how it’s translated to in English.
“Most people”
Yeah, if you don’t consider non-whites to be people
You literally have no idea what you’re talking about
Go to the official website of the party and see what they call themselves (in English)
So brave!
With hexbear federating it’s nice to see you have a well deserved vacation from
ha
engaging sexual intercourse with the cpc now
On one hand you are breaking the Volcel oath. On the other hand, based.
our site
You’ve been here 3 days.
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lol this is the fediverse, this is not your space, this is everyone’s space.
Time for you to go make friends with the fascists and shitlibs who share your opinions I guess
Go in the real world kid. 99% of people of all politics will not like China.
You’re such a redditor
It’s also kinda hard to have 99% of people dislike China if 18% of the global population lives there and is very satisfied with their government, not even counting anyone in Russia, other parts of Asia and the Pacific, Central and South America, or Africa.
You’re really showing whose opinions you actually care about. A bunch of propagandized to the brim, comfortable Americans, Canadians, and Europeans
I think you’d be shocked to find out that most of the world thinks very highly of China and it’s accomplishments and foreign policy. Though you like meant only to refer to Americans, which is understandable given your lamentable biases.
Nnnnnothin’ personnel, kid…
That’s ridiculous since the Chinese like China and we’re 18% of all humans.
Here’s an article about Americans getting salty that views on China in South America are largely positive as opposed to sub 50% approval rating in English speaking countries.
Here’s Voice of America saying the same thing about Africa and how Africans see China.
Your opinions on China is not only in the minority, it’s a waning minority. Those are western sources I used in case you wanted to cry propaganda.
CatholicSocialist’s criteria for who counts as people:
Again, not talking about countries bribed by China, I’m talking about the countries of the majority of the userbases here…
You think the people answering questions in these surveys were bribed? That’s hilarious lol. Imagine the headlines, “Global corruption soars as China moves to enhance its public image by bribing billions”
Go read about BRI infrastructure projects in Africa and Asia. The global south is generally very positive about Chinese politics because Chinese give them hospitals and roads and ports.
I wasn’t talking about people in countries that have been bribed.
lmao this is so dumb. Every campaign promise in every democracy is a bribe then?
You live in the US, how are you not being bribed to think the way you do?
In the real world 99% of people in US think about where their next meal is going to come from instead of perseverating about China the way you’re doing kid.
Have you considered turning the other cheek?
what do you mean, “you people”?
and that annoyance you feel is nothing compared to the capitalist propaganda you’ve been swimming in your whole life.
Will no one rid me of these meddlesome hexbears!?
Go back to Reddit with the other bazinga dipshits
lemmy user posts on lemmy
“why would hexbear do this?”
Same energy as calling any bad thing done by Americans as “like North Korea”
Disagreeing with you isn’t spam.
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sorry to break it to you, but the person who runs your instance might be more aligned with the hexbears than with you.
We have to put up with you too, you realize.
Excuse me, I’m here to show my support for Comrade Joe
it just so happens to also be a China thread
p.s.
You can probably block entire instances using one of the 3pa
“you people”
“You people” as in an overwhelmingly White-American group of people that spends their free time defending a brutal regime.
Hey there it is!! “Brutal regime” describes things like the ongoing cultural genocide of indigenous peoples, which itself is a continuation of the brutal mass murder and subjugation of those peoples. A BR (brutal regime) does things like enforce debt against Haiti for having the audacity to free itself from slavery and using the debt to ensure the white financiers who bought those slaves don’t lose any money while simultaneously refusing to engage in any form of reparations. A BR separates children from their parents for an an unbroken multi-century program of violent oppression against non-whites. If you rank every country in the world by the most bombs dropped on it, there’s only one BR that is responsible for the top 3 most bombed countries in the history of the world.
But do go on about how those ebil Chinese are so compliant in approving their government for 15 years at a rate of 95% (just ask Harvard) despite that government being a “brutal regime”. Must be something in their culture, right?
I found a website that doesn’t have those loser Hexbears. Here let me show you.
Was hopping this was a PPB link.
Please don’t 🥺🙏
Just keep dropping this link on the hexbears whenever you can:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1989_Tiananmen_Square_protests_and_massacre
They’re either clueless teenagers that only know the things they’ve learned from TikTok or working for whatever the Chinese equivalent of glavset is. Either way, they tend to make themselves scarce when that link is dropped on them.
Dude, take a break!
I mean I completely disagree with you, but this thread can’t be healthy for you. What purpose is it serving to get enraged here?
I’d say take a breather and if you dare: ask yourself how reliable your impression of China really is, maybe research some older claims that have been proven to be misrepresented or false, like this for example. Not saying you have to become a fan, but there seems to be a propaganda effort to prepare the public for a economic/military war with China. So more people need to be sceptical.
You seem to haven’t accepted it yet, but the capitalist class, through the means of communication they control, construct most impressions you have of foreign countries (without them being able to interject) and facts are negligable as they have been in the news-medias support of every US war effort in history as well.
I got a little carried away, but I meant it in good faith, you decided to wear a badge of socialism after all.
What you do is obviously up to you!
At least on mobile apps you can block an entire instance, hopefully that’s a feature we’ll see on Lemmy itself one day.
Yeah yeah, I’ve heard that before. There’s a whole cottage industry of “experts” that have predicted the imminent collapse of China going back decades. Call me when it actually happens.
China’s economy is stacked like a house of cards and could come crumbling down due to some unforeseen global financial shock, but then again that sounds like most modern economies. I think people just pick on China because, instead of having a group of billionaires stack up the cards, the government does it themselves.
Even if that shock happens, China will still be in a better situation. Like, they actually manufacture stuff there, and the government builds infrastructure aggressively. That’s two massive benefits to economic security and health.
But what if all that high speed rail disappears, huh? Didn’t think about that, stupid tankie.
It’s a legitimate risk. Rail theft by the mole-people is up 12% in the last quarter.
Well, actually it’s because China’s roaring economic success is both deeply embarassing and existentially dangerous to international fascism and it is absolutely vital that they both discredit China and prevent their thoroughly indoctrinated population from learning anything about China at all costs.
Do you repeat something you heard there or can you in detail describe how the worlds greates manufacturing Hub is a economy build on Cards…
china believes in the heart of the cards
This is what China wanted their relationship with the US to be like but our ruling class is just too evil and shortsighted for that
The Chinese government stacks the cards though it actually has the capability to use some toothpicks to hold them in place, and will immediately rebuild it things start to fall apart.
To contrast, the US will flounder and pull their one “low interest rates” lever while having a political blowout over some sort of stimulus funding package that probably won’t pass.
People (westerners) pick on China because they want it to collapse. It’s entirely wishful thinking.
If that’s the case then the US’s economy is a card dealer pointing a gun at everyone at the table
If you think China’s economy is a time bomb wait til you hear about what it means when the dollar is no longer the reserve currency around the world.
Looked up one of the videos shown in that video and saw one of them was actually bold enough to add an update…
The country that leads the world in mass shootings shouldn’t be labeling other countries as “ticking time bombs.”
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By my estimates, China has only 70 more years until complete and utter collapse!
Man leading country with the largest homeless population in the world says country which eliminated extreme poverty within its borders is about to collapse, of course this is true and should be taken seriously
Uhhhh China has almost 5x the homelessness as America
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_by_homeless_population
Buddy, you realize you’re quoting a source from 2011? Over the past decade GDP/capita in China has more than doubled and the number of people living below the poverty line has dropped from 100 million to less than 1 million.
Do people not check facts anymore? Jesus fucking Christ man. It’s like y’all never learned the basic scientific process.
Do people not check facts anymore?
Likewise, do people not cite sources for their own claims?
Heard of Google?
Heard of the burden of proof? Lead by example and Google it first
Besides, providing sources isn’t just to support your ideas, but for people to evaluate the quality of your info and gauge your integrity. 101 stuff, but go on lecturing about the scientific process while practicing none of it yourself.
So… You have no counterargument, no source for your 2015 claim, and nothing of value to contribute? Carry on.
You’re one of the biggest failures of democracy: democracy assumes people discuss in good faith. Meanwhile, you use decades-old data to provide misinformation while pretending to be informed and follow it up with uncited claims… Because, reasons?
Here, I’ll help you Google:
[GDP per capita] https://www.ceicdata.com/en/indicator/china/gdp-per-capita
[Poverty rates] https://openknowledge.worldbank.org/bitstream/handle/10986/37727/9781464818776.pdf?sequence=4&isAllowed=y
[Link between poverty and homelessness] https://pure.hw.ac.uk/ws/portalfiles/portal/7467281/Homelessness_Poverty_FullReport.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwiE9fGM8NeAAxXcgv0HHdvWArIQFnoECBgQAQ&usg=AOvVaw1BQARSj9oJ_XIjT4rz1cu_
You’re one of the biggest failures of democracy
Where do you think I live?? xDDD
Here, I’ll help you Google:
Help me?? lmao Dude, that’s your fucking homework. It’s late and half-assed so I’ll give you a C. Nice try throwing around a 100+ page PDFs around like that means anything. You give a quote with a page number, Mr Scientific Method dude.
Now go forth practicing what you learned today instead of being a giant hypocrite, little grasshopper.
Buddy, I’m talking homelessness specifically, not just poverty. Show me proof China’s reduced homelessness significatly. Because the most recent figure I could find was 2015… where there was an additional 500,000 homeless people from 2011, largely due to exploited migrant labor.
I love not accounting for population size! However, let’s see how the countries can be compared when we do:
Uhhhh China has 4x the population of the US
Uhhhh the US has more people in prison than China despite having 4x less people in the country
But 5 is bigger than 4
Why bring up prison, is this a general “which country is worse” discussion?
A lot of homeless people do end up in prison both for all of the anti-homeless laws in various cities. For some folks it may end up being a better option than just outright dying in the streets from lack of food, medicine (love how the richest nation can’t put our tax money into anything that actually helps all of us), and/or from the elements. So while your point of bringing up prison population is a valid one. It is still (in part) related to homeless population numbers, just not totally useful by itself.
That being said, I do think that China is actually putting much more effort into dealing with the problem. As bringing people out of poverty/homelessness is crucial to keeping support of the masses. When enough people are just tossed out and can’t get help. It will lead to dramatic and very widespread revolts and even civil wars. That is true for any nation, no matter what system is in place. Socialist nations were birthed by such widespread poverty for the many while the few hoarded the wealth and resources. It is kind of one of the main points Marx and other anti-capitalist theorists base their shit on.
Executed people aren’t homeless or imprisoned, either.
Only one answer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCV8O_EkM4w
man in glass house throws stones
‘ticking time bomb’ says man who can’t draw clock
CHINA COLLAPSING ANY DAY NOW
3 DAYS!!!
My reliable sources tell me that China will collapse in
I’ll drop this beautiful book here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Coming_Collapse_of_China
Americans have been predicting the collapse of China for 30+ years. It’s just wishful thinking.
Draw a Clock! Draw a Clock! Draw a Clock!
What troubles?
Can you describe the troubles?
Are the troubles in the room with us?
They’re straight up gaslighting LMAO. This is an actual, recent headline from the wsj:
Reaching levels of copium not thought possible.
Except official data doesn’t look good? They haven’t gaslit shit, they’ve been reporting slowing growth, decreasing exports, and deflation.
WSJ literally wrote an article “this is what I think China will do and that’s why China bad”
What the fuck kind of journalism is that?
Official data looks good when you compare it with other large economies.
Vibes based economics
he’s probably referring to this https://thenextrecession.wordpress.com/2023/08/02/china-consumption-or-investment/
tldr chinas quarterly growth has slowed and liberal economists are claiming china’s miracle is over. private sector investment has shrank 0.2% for the first time since data collection in 2005 but investment by state firms has expanded 8.1% in the same period. there’s also a current global manufacturing recession. doesnt mean “its over” or whatever tf they’re saying but interesting to note.
I mean there will be a point when the Chinese middle class stops growing and the government will need to midwife a new economic model. A Communist Party is probably the only political organization currently in the world that can come up with an answer that isn’t slashing the social safety net and giving big handouts to corporations to keep profits up, though.
im not an expert in political economy, but if you read the article he goes into a lot of specific reasons why china is still in a great position in regards to the future, although it will take responsible leadership that pushes back against mainstream neoclassical economics.
Neoliberalism has been a failure for the actual population. It’s decoupled economic growth from improved quality of life. Meanwhile, social democracies in Europe are showing that other models are practical and viable.
GDP Annual Growth Rate in European Union averaged 1.70 percent from 1996 until 2023
https://tradingeconomics.com/european-union/gdp-annual-growth-rate
GDP Growth Rate in Euro Area averaged 0.37 percent from 1995 until 2023
Which European country isn’t pursuing neoliberal economics?
Social Democracies in Europe are showing that you can keep people complacent as long as the oil and the african gold don’t run out. Whoopsie.
Must be forgetting about Finland, whoopsie.
You don’t think Finland benefits from the victimization of the global south?
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