More people died during Biden’s term than Trump’s so

both seem irredeemably evil to me

cool

you missed a bit of the quote there but all good

brother the factual explanation is the United Nations determinations that the Zionazi entity is guilty of genocide, which she aided as VP and promised no deviation from in her… CBS? CNN? idk, one interview. You can google it if you want, I don’t care that much about convincing you.

didnt read whatever else you said because nothing else matters except the fact that she is a genocidaire

Ok. Trump isn’t either. He wants to be, but he isn’t - still mostly obeying the courts for now, even if he drags his feet a bit sometimes.

Would she have been as bad domestically? Probably not, but there’s danger in that too - allowing liberals to overlook the heinous crimes of the American empire, as so many did during Biden’s presidency, because their own privileged comfort was never at risk. Only the lives of thousands of brown people overseas and well, that’s just the cost of ““democracy””, isn’t it?

Anyway, as I said, she still would’ve lost even if she secured every single third-party vote, so you’re yelling into a quantifiable abyss here. She was a shit candidate and will be a shit candidate still if she runs again, just like Hillary Clinton.

No, by voting for neither I voted for nothing Trump and Project 2025 promised. I also was not willing to greenlight genocide of tens, if not hundreds, of thousands of human beings to protect my own comfort by voting for Holocaust Harris.

I disagree that one was worse than the other. Both are entities managed by genocidal monsters and pedophiles. The person who genocides 40,000 people instead of 80,000, or preys on children instead of babies, isn’t “the lesser evil”, they’re both just fucking abhorrently evil.

Now instead of getting 4 years to regroup and push progressivism

Right, because that worked so well with the DNC rigging primaries against Bernie Sanders (who is already a compromise insofar as he’s a liberal Zionist), Biden praising the police sent to beat nonviolent student protestors at UCLA, promising “no red lines” for the Zionazi entity, Harris campaigning with relative of infamous war criminal and architect of the so-called "“War on Terror” Dick Cheney, and pledging the “most lethal military in the history of the world”. I mean for fuck’s sake, Trump even pursued cannabis rescheduling before the Dems did!

They didn’t codify abortion protections during Obama’s presidency when they had a supermajority. They were too busy conducting illegal drone strikes in Yemen.

Aside from identity politics, what examples can you name of instances where anyone successfully pushes the Dems to progressivism within the last 2 Democrat administrations? Because all I can remember is Obama promising “change” and then bragging about how unexpectedly good he was at killing people, and I remember Biden promising “nothing will fundamentally change” to a room full of wealthy campaign donors before he became complicit in the modern-day holocaust… not to mention ‘ending’ the pandemic when it very much was not over, which is a form of eugenics, which is not generally considered a progressive value. At least not where I’m from.

as VP she pushed for an official investigation into Israel so they could bypass the law forcing them to provide arms.

ok

and what happened as a result of that?

Nothing? Yes, Democrats are excellent actors in our democracy theater routine, at least until recently.

Does that mean not voting for Trump was the same as voting for Harris?

So if I voted for neither, I voted for both?

Infinite vote glitch!

Holocaust Harris didn’t deserve to win either, with promising “no deviation” from Biden’s genocidal policies and “the most lethal military in the history of the world.” Stop licking the boot just because it’s blue. Stop voting for genocide to protect your own privileged domestic comfort.

Also, I know Blue MAGA doesn’t care about math any more than they care about any other type of factual information, but Holocaust Harris still would’ve lost if she received literally every single vote cast for every single non-Trump candidate - even including Libertarians, who probably would’ve voted Trump in case of a binary choice.

She lost because she was a shit candidate, openly genocidal, couldn’t form a coherent thought, and offered no meaningful vision of the future to the constituency.

“the president” is an odd way of spelling “Israel”, but not entirely incorrect actually

Explain it’s a social group for your given age demographic, but suggest it’s open to anyone

Something like this?

Joking though, I think that’s a great idea and also circumvents the need for social media. Though I might suggest Signal instead of WhatsApp but maybe normal people would find that weird lol

Quick someone save Kash Patel!

…actually nah it’s fine.

…that’s 5 years lol, yeah of course it’s gone up since then

Except, maybe, the employee-owned ones. Glory to Winco.

There are hundreds, if not thousands, of ““Israeli”” soldiers who have done the same thing over the last few years.

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You will either need an analog to Speziallager or some other magical measures like propaganda or forced lobotomy.

Listen I’m not opposed to mandating lobotomies for ICE agents, in fact that sounds quite fun, but I think the problem you’re referencing could be significantly lessened by actually providing high-quality education (all free of course) and actually meeting people’s material needs.

Not fixed, mind you, but significantly lessened.

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I checked on mobile but I use Brave

lmao ok

Some places to start could be

1. Following ICE wherever they go and documenting their conduct. Civilians are already doing this and Walz has requested that they do so, so having the military do at least what you’re expecting the citizens to do is literally the bare minimum.
2. Warning citizens when ICE is approaching, perhaps even using state emergency warning systems. If this is considered protected First Amendment conduct for citizens, it may be for military as well. I’m not sure from a legal perspective, but they should be risking it to protect citizens. Especially since Trump constantly takes an “ask for forgiveness, not permission” approach.
3. Put state resources behind the prosecution of Alex Pretti’s murderer. (It’s been intimated that this is being done via the BCA but I’m not seeing any actual indications of progress.)
4. Put state resources behind enabling a general strike / eviction freeze / other economic benefits to both enable protest and prevent vulnerable immigrants from needing to go to work.
5. Not fucking sending state police to brutalize protestors at the site of Alex Pretti’s murder.

I think those would all fall short of “a literal civil war”.

I see federal troops feeding protestors as an attempt to maintain the perception of the state as a legitimate authority without actually needing to take any meaningful action. “Look guys, they’re with us!”… except when the bullets / less-than-lethal projectiles start flying.

Nope, both sides are equally evil. Terrible Trump? Idk sounds kinda lame. He, Biden, and Harris all belong in the meat grinder, but I’d settle for the Hague.

Didn’t read the rest of whatever you said.

Weird, no paywall for me and I’m definitely not subscribed