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  • I’ve already stated that I think this volunteer position should have better benefits and pay. Despite that, I will stand behind this program being a step towards the right direction. This program is far from exploitation. It’s not an embarrassment, and one of the few rehabilitation programs that actually attempts to help inmates get back on their feet after prison.

    If you really think other states do any similar programs you’re grossly mistaken. Except for a couple other blue states, the other states imprison people in for profit prisons, so they can lease forced labor for pennies. There’s no comparable program in the states, and if you find a problem with the pay, you should be looking at literally everywhere else in the states that uses inmates for farm labor because those states refuse to pay people proper wages. Not to mention the fact that those are involuntary labor.


  • Everyone’s always quick to attack Cali for literally anything.

    The firefighter / emergency reponder program is a volunteer position. Prisoners are not forced to join. They willingly joined, learned about the job, and are expected to help out when needed.

    Everyone likes to complain about this as forced slavery, but this is one of the better programs inmates can volunteer in. They get experience, rehabilitation, and work towards emergency certificates that they can then use to get hired once they are released.

    The other states have no comparable rehabilitation program. They’ll gladly throw you out to the streets with a criminal record and let you suffer because a criminal record reduces your chance of getting a job by a significant amount.

    Are there plenty of issues with the program still? Yes. There’s long, grueling hours that comes with the nature of emergency response, bad pay, and a multitude of other issues, but a lot of it ties with how the prison system works and will take a lot of reform to set things right. I’m confident in Cali working towards those things though. This state has always been working for the people, even if it’s a slow and tedious process.

    And for those who actually care, you can read more about the program here:

    https://www.cdcr.ca.gov/facility-locator/conservation-camps/faq-conservation-fire-camp-program/