Mid 50s, first went online on a 70s BBS, JANET user in the 80s.

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  • It depends what country you are in. In the UK a retailer must accept electronic items for recycling (or provide you with the details of a free recycling service) The local council will have a recycling service (in most areas small appliances can be left out with your recycling bin). For items which might have a value there are companies that will buy them from you for a small amount and then recycle.

    Please do not take them to a charity shop without checking beforehand as many cannot afford the testing needed before they can resell.




  • It was you that brought up using computers. You didn’t say anything about learning or progressing.

    As for certain age, I think your answer actually supports my piint that it’s down to individual experience rather than age. Consider a manual worker who doesn’t trust technology and will only have a basic dumb phone. They are technology averse but might be in their 20s.

    Computerisation of the workplace started in the 70s (I was there) and by the mid 80s was commonplace. Even shops were installing computerised systems then, even if it was a standalone register with a number of preset department numbers. A conservative estimate is that the majority of people working and living from 1990 onwards would have experience of computers whether at work, in shops, at the bank, in the car or public transport or at home. Let’s be generous and say they retired in 2000 at age 60 (will be higher in most countries) after ten years of familiarity then they’d be over 80 now.

    And yet we have people much younger than that who are technology averse and unable or willing to learn. Why is that? Because age is not the deciding factor but people’s own lives experience.

    Have a look at the UN Global Report on ageism and how it affects younger people as well as older people. The flip side of stereotyping older people is that you automatically stereotype younger people as being easily able to do the thing you think older people can’t do.

    You’re right that the UN is not always consistent but note that the Secretary General is not talking exclusivity but that more support is needed and that they are referring to new technologies rather than email which has been around for over 50 years. I sent my first email in 1981 when addresses were resolved in the opposite way to nowadays.