But the clear intent is to…

And there’s the rub. You have an extremely weak and vague Constitution that everyone has so far just agreed to follow with a wink wink, nod nod. Once the first demagogue showed up, that shit went out the window.

What are you talking about? The amendment makes no mention of VP or succession.

No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of President more than once. But this Article shall not apply to any person holding the office of President when this Article was proposed by Congress, and shall not prevent any person who may be holding the office of President, or acting as President, during the term within which this Article becomes operative from holding the office of President or acting as President during the remainder of such term.

This article shall be inoperative unless it shall have been ratified as an amendment to the Constitution by the legislatures of three-fourths of the several States within seven years from the date of its submission to the States by the Congress.

Biggest evidence of fascism I see is a constitution which explicitly enshrines the right to enslave people.

The 22nd amendment does not prohibit Trump from serving a third term. It prohibits Trump from being elected a third time. Weak ass document.

You can repeat “smoke and mirrors” as many times as you want. Doesn’t change that the two cops treated me VERY differently. Doesn’t change that one cop gave me an assurance of a plea deal when the other one basically told me I’d be locked up forever. Doesn’t change that one slammed my face into the table when the other got me cool glass of water. Doesn’t change that one lied about my actions and assumed my guilt, and the other took the time to hear me out on my story.

There are so many examples of the cops not treating me the same that there’s no other way to look at your opinion than as ignorant to the extreme.

Same. I had to look it up. In doing my deep research, I learned that they used an EKG on Jonny P II to confirm his expiration. That shit’s hilarious. It was someone’s job to EKG that OBVIOUSLY dead corpse, lol.

You’re misunderstanding me. I did not say Biden could’ve appointed more judges. I’m saying Biden could’ve stacked (or “packed”) scotus.

So why wasn’t Biden stacking SCOTUS?

I love how liberals bleat this because it implies genocide is good.

Do you think there has been an ongoing genocide in Gaza since Oct 7?

The way you poke fun at the term is psychotic, frankly. I.e. “HolOCauST”

Fascists are not empowered by political apathy. If that were the case, you’d be able to provide evidence that states or nations with low voter turnout always turn fascist. 80% of voters turned out in 1932 when the Nazis became the most powerful party. Political apathy can be a result of burgeoning fascism - among other things. How do you think fascism arose in Germany? People being lazy?

Chalking up fascism to poltical apathy is what happens when you fail to look at fascism as a function of class dynamics and class conflict - and furthermore, fail to see the generations-old pattern of regulatory agencies being captured, special interests dominating political commentary, rampant lobbying, decaying education, wages being suppressed, healthcare being denied, transportation services rendered useless, etc…

If, at the end of this devolution into fascism, your only takeaway is “Damn lazy tankies and russian spies destroyed America!”, then you haven’t learned your lesson, and you’ve fallen in perfect lockstep with your liberal forerunners who made the exact same mistakes.

It’s telling that you folks never engage when leftists point out that when the democrats had a choice between slowing fascism and committing genocide on Palestinians, they chose to do genocide all for sweet AIPAC dollars.

The simple fact is that Biden’s and Kamala’s constituents wanted an end to genocide. Biden and Kamala ignored these constituents. Biden and Kamala lost. That couldn’t be a more democratic outcome; it’s more American than Apple pie. If you say “fuck you” to your constituents, it’s a safe bet you’ll lose them, and if this is a calculus that some dumb ass like me can make, you know that higher levels of democratic leadership were aware of the risks and chose to take them anyway. The democrats are controlled opposition.

If you are a liberal reading this thread and are starting to see holes pop up in the logic and reasoning of your colleagues, or have correctly identified that the liberals are ill-equipped to deal with this devolution, I’d encourage you to learn what Marxism really is - beyond the spark notes you got from your conservative history teacher in high school.

https://socialistra.org/edu/

If you didn’t buy a gun and start keeping your gas tank full months ago, now is the time.

https://socialistra.org/edu/

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Lol, Tom Cruise is sad.

Curious how democrats decided to do genocide over obstructing any of the dastardly acts on your list. Is it lost on you how the democrats are controlled opposition?

If, in 20 years, your choice is between a democrat who wants 9 genocides and a republican who wants 10, which would you choose?

Strawman. Never did I say that the things you mentioned dont play a role in facilitating fascism.

Poor education, MIC, captured media, sure… all of these things facilitate fascism.

My point is that your analysis does not get at the heart of how fascism arises or why america is going full throated fascist in recent years. Why do we have poor education? Why do we have a bloated MIC? Why has our mainstream media been captured? Why is conservatism increasingly in fashion?

You’re not going to get to the heart of these questions by ignoring class. You’ll especially fail to answer these questions if you just blame some nebulous concept of “conservatism” wholesale. Youve correctly identified the symptoms, but you still need to take the next step w/ class-based, material analysis.

Honestly dog, this is exactly the right question. I get it. Shoutout to you for asking it. Truly.

From the liberal perspective, this is exactly how it goes. “I voted against fascism, yet fascism still festers. What gives?”

The liberal framework pushes the idea that electoralism is the be all end all form of political participation, but leftists refute this. Leftists say that you have a plethora of other tools at your disposal to express yourself politically: buy a gun, do mutual aid, join an organization, read theory, participate in local politics, etc…

If your question is earnest, I’d encourage you to read some Lenin.

Yup.

What we are seeing now is a critical inflection point for liberals: do they do honest introspection and start to apply real criticism to the history of the US, or do they cover their ears and claim Trumpism is an aberration for which they have no reasonable explanation.

To put it simply, liberals now have a choice between

“Damn, this is really the outcome of the american political project, huh? How did we get here?”

And

“Trumpist fascism is un-American, and I am clueless as to how it took hold, but I am going to continue to vote blue no matter who!”

If the amount of liberals on .world bizarrely harkening back to the “good old days” of the founders, Reagan, Obama, and even dubya is any indication, I suspect most of them have gone with the second option.

There are plenty of racists who aren’t fascist. There are plenty or countries with racism problems that aren’t fascist. There are plenty of dumbfucks who aren’t fascist. There are plenty of illiterate countries that aren’t fascist. “Stupidity” (im being careful here - i dont think illiteracy = stupid) and racism predates fascism.

Youve reached the limit of the liberal ideological framework and have resorted to explaining fascism as some sort of cultural pathology. This is what happens when your idealist politics prioritizes individual psychology and moralistic explanations over historical and economic analysis.

It’s frustrating seeing liberals watch the fascist devolution in real-time, and just throw up their hands saying “well i guess americans are just stupid! QED!”. It conveniently absolves them for their complicity in facilitating fascism, and it spits in the face of victims of US policy, both foreign and abroad.