Right - first option survive the storm, next option… Murder? Steal? Pillage? (I’m stretching what you said, but it was implied). This is the very possible future we all might be living in, so again to OP’s point about spiting your nose/face. Basically I find the moves of Trump to be catastrophic and the potential of where it might lead us is… Horrific

I’ll take a stab at it:

• Local businesses will suffer across the board, might lead to this poor fella maybe loosing his already shit job.

-There won’t be another job for him to take (see first point).

-He makes shit money so he has nothing saved up.

-social nets and government help is being systematically wiped out.

-It’s the streets now, and for many others like him. Where does this lead? Massive uptick in crime, and a lot of crime everywhere. Everyone is fucked - those who currently care and those who currently don’t care.

My guy, everything has changed and yet nothing has changed. You are arguing specifics while I’m arguing bigger picture. I’m not saying your wrong or I’m wrong, I just think we have a different view and measuring with a different kind of ruler, and yet I don’t think we are really in disagreement, this seems to be arguing over semantics of what videos were in ~95 (very low res and shit quality fyi) and how many people had access to those shit quality videos - I’m just saying they were always there

It’s still the same bullshit - people looking at text on their terminals. Be it SMS, be it discord, etc. people looking at images, listening to music, etc. inb4 “durr durr no 4k res in 95”, no shit

I really don’t know what your crusade is with this topic, but I actually do have(and still use) the same computer I had in the late 90’s - SGI Indigo2 Extreme I got when I bought Alias PowerAnimator. Me and you were absolutely not doing the same stuff with our systems

My guy, wtf were you doing in the 90’s on a computer? of course we didn’t have streaming or just stupid useless videos that litter YouTube now, but there were video files all over the place to download and watch. For whatever reason, people were making the time and effort to digitize videos. Mpeg codecs came out in the early 90’s - I specifically remember efnet irc members posting urls to mpegs of Weird Japanese vomit porn. Amiga scene was strong too, (video toaster came out in 1990…). Not really sure why you even feel the need to doubt any of this

Oh brother the Grammar nerds are here, as if that really takes away from what I’m saying.

In the mid and late 90’s people knew how to make videos, they didn’t link a YouTube URL but did post links to where one could find a video online, and IRC has bots that did file transfers, as well as people would use public ftp’s as file dumping grounds.

I was there from the start, you must of never BBS’d or IRC’d - shit was amazing in the early days.

I mean honestly nothing has really changed - we are still at our terminals looking at text. Only real innovation has been inline pics, videos and audio. 30+ years ago one had to click a link to see that stuff

Keep your filthy paws away from my boy George Lucas

People used to laugh at me when I said America, as a leader and superpower, died when Trump won the first time. We have just been going forward due to inertia, but the bill will come due soon I fear

I would think in Utah plenty of teachers and firefighters voted R, but I would love to hear from someone who has better info than me. I worked with tons of union guys who were very proudly conservative and even hated the union they were in. The propaganda is strong in some…

You underestimate conservatives

What do you think they think when they see an AOL email

That actually explains this stupidity doesn’t it …

Right - the entire stock market doesn’t make sense, doesn’t seem to stop Tesla or any of the other massively overvalued stocks. Btw stocks have been massively overvalued for over a decade, but that’s a different topic

So not any amount then. My point stands

Absolutely my point

It’s not a statement out of ignorance and it’s not a lie. Most people don’t try to move huge money around so I’ll illustrate what I had to go through - I had a huge sum of money I had in an online investing company. I had a very time critical situation I needed the money for, so I cashed out my investments - the company only cashed out via check sent via registered mail (maybe they did transfers for smaller amounts, but for the sum I had it was check only). It took almost two weeks for me to get that check. When I deposited that check with my bank, the bank had a mandatory 5-7 business day wait to clear (once again, smaller checks they deposit immediately and then do the clearing process - BIG checks they don’t do that, so I had to wait another week). Once cleared, I had to move the money to another bank, and guess what - I couldn’t take that much cash out, daily transfers are capped at like $1500 or whatever they were, so I had to get a check from the bank. The other bank made me wait another 5-7 business day as well, because the check was just too damn big.

4 weeks it took me to move huge money around, and of course I missed the time critical thing I really needed the money for.

I’m just a random person, not a business, no business accounts, etc. The system just isn’t designed for small folk to move big money

I have a dirty suspicion that the “where’s the ROI?” talking point is actually a calculated and collaborated strategy by big wall street banks to panic retail investors to sell so they can gobble up shares at a discount - trump is going to be pumping (at minimum) hundreds of BILLIONS into these companies in the near future.

Call me a conspiracy guy, but I’ve seen this playbook many many times

I disagree - before Bitcoin there was no venmo, cashapp, etc. It took weeks to move big money around. I’m not saying shit like NFT’s ever made sense, and meme coins are fucking stupid - unfortunately the crypto world has been taken over by scammers - but don’t shit on the technology

Honestly none of this means anything at the moment. This might be some sort of calculated trickery from China to give Nvidia the finger, or Biden the finger, or a finger to Trump’s AI infrastructure announcement a few days ago, or some other motive.

Maybe this “selloff” is masterminded by the big wall street players (who work hand-in-hand with investor friendly media) to panic retail investors so they can snatch up shares at a discount.

What I do know is that “AI” is a very fast moving tech and shit that was true a few months ago might not be true tomorrow - no one has a crystal ball so we all just gotta wait and see.