chauvanism

BTW it’s “chauvinism”. I don’t mean to be an asshole, I just see this incorrect spelling of this specific word very often. 100% agree with your comment.

You’re talking about the triple parentheses, right? I was also wondering that. If it is a dogwhistle, what does it mean? “The Jews are… ???” Supporting the DPRK???

He was able to keep forcing elections until he won.

He literally did not win the election. As I just told you, he lost the election in 1932 and within a year he had essentially absolute power. Democracy didn’t matter to the nazis, they took power when they were able to practically, after hitler was appointed chancellor by Hindenburg.

You still seem stuck on the idea that winning the German election was important. I’m reminding you again that it took hitler approximately 1 year to go from losing that election in 1932 to consolidating absolute power in 1933 with the Enabling Act.

Yeah, in that case “the vast majority of Americans” are wrong. You’re also overestimating how many people believe in that sham of an electoral system, look at polling on whether America is democratic or look at voter participation rates.

“A better world is not possible, the best we can do is moderate hitler unironically” was NOT on my bingo card for today, but here we are.

I didn’t even catch that TBH, but the implication that social democrats somehow AREN’T liberals is funny.

undemocratically annointing an even more wildly unpopular and more hated moderate hitler that promised to do everything hitler did but with a smiley face so you could stay at brunch.

A candidate who then lost to the regular hitler lmao.

When you really think about it, why do people in the west even feel the need to have an opinion (especially negative) about the DPRK? All the propaganda is so obviously an attempt to manufacture consent to massacre Koreans again as well as to distract from any problems at home.

I think you answered this actually, it makes them feel smart. The underlying emotional cause is a sense of superiority they get to feel towards the evil eastern “regime” (which is just repackaged colonial racism, in the end), which allows them to feel better about their own lot in life. It’s the white man’s burden.

choose hindenburg in 1932

get hitler in 1933 anyway

historians are still trying to figure out how this happened /s

It’s amazing that the only political options you can imagine are voting for the 100% hitler or 99% hitler party until you get 100% hitler anyway. You think revolution is impossible, apparently. The revolution doesn’t come from nowhere and revolutionary politics is not just immediately taking power. You build up parallel institutions of power to be ready to fight when you need to and seize power when the opportunity comes. These can be used to defend yourself when the hitlers come for you.

Your entire stance here is just “better things aren’t possible, hitler is inevitable”.

I adopted the other person’s framing, but I do think “moderate Hitler” isn’t as bad as “Hitler”.

oh my god, you’re actually not joking

I could get you to support anything by this logic, rather than refuse the non-choice and choose revolutionary means instead. Literally the only value on display here is the preservation of the current state of things.

I don’t think I’m the weird one for wanting to do harm minimization when harm eradication isn’t realistically on the table.

You’re the one saying it’s not on the table, since your idea of political participation doesn’t seem to ever go beyond voting every 4 years for parties that stand for the same thing in the end.

You can vote for the Democrats, that’s fine, but if you’re expecting them to stop the Republicans or to not do mostly the same things Republicans do then you’re not paying attention to what they do. Voting isn’t going to save you here.

Yeah, “moderate hitler” seriously got me. Do they not realize that people say “moderate hitler” to mock the exact political position they now seem to be unironically supporting?

You didn’t even know who Hindenburg was until 15 minutes ago but still confidently replied to a comment about him before looking it up, maybe don’t lecture others about their knowledge of reality.

You’re acting like the nazis were waiting to be given power legitimately when they in fact abolished any democracy the moment they were able to get away with it. The timeline here wasn’t driven by “can hitler get enough votes to win”, hitler took power however he could (he didn’t win the vote) and abolished voting as soon as he was able. I don’t know why you think that voting against the people who plan to abolish the right to vote will do anything, they literally openly do not respect the practice or the outcomes of votes. Politically, you are staring at the shadows on the wall of Plato’s cave and getting mad at people asking you to actually exit the cave and do something that might have an effect against fascists.

I’m also aware of what would’ve happened if Hitler as elected instead.

Literally exactly the same thing?

are you aware of what happened when hindenburg was elected

By that logic, Hindenburg was “better” than Hitler, but choosing one still got you the other in the end.

Death to the settler-colonial entity know us “The United States of America”, sometimes called AmeriKKKa.

I don’t see why it’s funny to use a yellow bear to describe a Chinese man.

Oh, I see the problem. You need to become more racist! /s