Got drunk plenty of times underage. Age 14 onwards about. Had my fun, decided the hangovers weren’t worth it when I was around 20 and only occasionally get drunk anymore (and do my best to mitigate the hangover). Might have a drink sometimes and pretend it’s a cool adult thing to do or something, but I don’t really care for it. Never felt like “I need a drink” or felt any desire for a “refreshing” beer or a cider. I rather have a soda. I’m happy to try cocktails and things like that for novelty but don’t really care for the taste of alcohol itself.

I drink if I’m with my family for a prolonged period of time. It’s this careful maintenance of that very specific stage of mild drunkenness where I can stay jovial but not too open, and can sober up easily before bed.

I’m happy to get drunk in good company but yeah, I drink a lot of water and try to make sure to get properly drunk early with shots and then maintain with beer etc. so I can start sobering up before bed. I really hate laying in bed when drunk.

Somehow I do seem to have a pretty good tolerance for alcohol but I think it’s mainly because I track my state of drunkenness very carefully and drink either shots (or wine, but she’s a treacherous bitch), beer or water depending on how it’s going.

You’re on the internet.

Please… educate yourself https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFDatCchpus

You being distracted by my bullshit sounds awful lot like a you problem.

It’s very telling. He fancies himself to be on the same level as a medieval peasant doing manual labor. While there are actually people out there living under such conditions (and worse), and we actively benefit from it. Peak bourgeois slacktivist meme.

The system loves you. Just angry enough to post, just lazy enough to obey.

Well fucking said. Everyone’s ready to bitch about the system, until you ask them to live anywhere near like the people who are actually getting crushed by it. The performative outrage in this thread is a bad joke to the people who build our phones, sew our clothes, and mine our lithium. To them, we’re not revolutionaries. We’re the elite’s pampered pets, barking at the leash but gladly gobbling up all the treats they throw at us. People are getting mad about AI: guess fucking what, the outrage itself is a treat. The Epstein files are a treat. Anything that keeps you glued to the screen, ignoring everything that is actually around you is a treat. It’s your programmed Two Minutes of Hate.

Revolutions happen with real people willing to make sacrifices, working together and giving others real, tangible reasons to want to support them. Not by bitching online about how very awful it is. You want a revolution? Try going a week without buying anything. Try getting relationships instead of likes. But no, it’s easier to scream into the void and call it resistance, isn’t it? The system thanks you for your compliance.

Oh, what performative purity. You’re typing that on a device built by slave labor, powered by a grid they own, through an internet they control. But sure, AI is where you draw the line, how very principled of you. You still think you’re not part of the machine just because you’re picking which cog to hate today. Congrats, you’ve mastered the art of feeling superior while changing nothing.

Yes. Sorry, didn’t mean to sound like I was lecturing you. I agree with you, broadly speaking. I’ve just been online for a very long time and I’ve seen how these discussions tend to go. I got in my head and wrote to the amalgamation of all the people whose response to topics like these is to shame people for not knowing.

And certain people dismissing this topic with just “think of the children” is unhelpful. It dismisses real pain and hands over the conversation to the worst-faith actors, who are more than happy to fill the void with rage and simplification.

Fucking this. I have little doubt that OP is a lost cause and is just looking troll by “just asking questions” (as evidenced by the fact that he never responds to any genuine and rational comments and only goes for the cheap shots). But never forget that there are people reading these discussions who legitimately don’t know or understand. If you have had the sufficient education and environment to learn these things before needing to ask about it online, you are privileged. The alt-right/MGTOW/nazi/etc. crowd have cultivating resentment in confused and sidelined young men down to a science. They are eager to provide their twisted answers with a seemingly loving embrace when the mainstream discussion dismisses the whole topic because it’s something that you’re just somehow magically supposed to know regardless of your background.

https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/1053:_Ten_Thousand

On paper I could almost agree but let them leave ONCE. By agreeing to follow the rules and laws of the society etc. And if they then break the agreement, permanently send them back. This makes it so that people born in there have a chance to leave. And perhaps some people could have a light bulb moment that maybe having institutions in place isn’t all that bad.

That said, you always have total freedom to do exactly what you want. As does everyone else - that’s the part everyone tends to forget when floating ideas of this type. It’s just that majority of people already have decided to use that freedom to create systems that encourages certain behaviors and discourages others. People who want absolute freedom for the individual often seem to like the idea of stripping other individuals from the freedom of forming collectives.

We already live in a society that’s the result of the jungle’s law of total freedom. The only issue is that you can’t choose what kind of a system you’re born to and it’s not necessarily easy to switch into another system. But you always have options. People just tend to want to have their cake and eat it too.

What AI is not: Human connection. A creative.

What AI is: A very fancy search engine that gives human-like answers. Which includes the fallibility. People keep saying “you’re better off reading the page”… are you tho? Why are we suddenly defending the academy of google and “doing your own research”? People who are hell bent on being idiots will continue to be idiots, AI or no. Though AI has some chance to exposing logical fallacies in one’s arguments. If fucking anything, AI can help smart people with the exhausting task of dealing with gishgallop disinformation tactics in online discourse. And I mean SMART people, those who know better than to just have AI print a wall of text on their behalf, and who know the subject matter but don’t have every piece of proof at their fingertips at any given time (of course an argument can be made that a smart person wouldn’t get into this kind of argument in the first place - but ya’ll know how you are).

Also, as much as I dislike Google, there’s no viable alternative to YouTube. And Gemini is way better with YouTube searches.

And I’m happy to not be forced to go onto the garbage sites of Wikia etc. whenever I need to look something up in a videogame.

And it’s an utility that can help with the more tedious tasks of projects. Which isn’t an universally good thing since that usually implies more productivity, which implies more consumption. And we’re already over-consuming. But AI can also help production of something actually life-enhancing, from people who actually care and aren’t just looking to produce more to generate more profits.

It’s a tool, and a toy. And unfortunately a lot of people aren’t equipped to use it.