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  • galanthus@lemmy.worldtoMemes@lemmy.mlHeaven on earth = Communism
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    7 hours ago

    Not to the early Christians it wasn’t. The early Christians movements (before they were co-opted by Empire) were radically egalitarian.

    That would be irrelevant even if it was true. We are not in the second century. It is a very controversial position either way.

    Egalitarian values certainly did emerge out of Christianity, and there was a change in that direction even then, but they were not egalitarian in the modern sense.

    Also, please be careful when generalising early Christianty, as it was a very diverse group of sects that hardly agreed on anything.

    Early religious communities sometimes were very accepting, and women played a role as well, but they still existed in a very patriarchal culture, so you should not expect their women to be equal to men in society, and there were absolutely positions of authority.

    They opposed the empire because initially, they were not perceived by anyone as a group distinct from Jews, which were very hostile to it. However, there were appeals made by powerful Christians later to be recognized as a non-threat to imperial power, and ultimately, they succeeded.

    Even so, the Jews simply wanted independence, not equality. The idea of social equality did not even exist then. They were equal in Christ, not in society.

    Christianity was not coopted by the empire, it conquered it.

    The idea that early christianity was somehow “more pure” I do not accept as well. I would say the Christian tradition has only been enriched over the years, and without a unified basic set of dogmas it would really make much sense.


  • galanthus@lemmy.worldtoMemes@lemmy.mlHeaven on earth = Communism
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    Well, it does not have an economy, so why would it have money?

    Also, it doesn’t have politics and society in the conventional sense, but men are clearly subordinate to God. Christ is king, this is the way Christians think, so I am not sure this is a correct comparison.

    The question of “should Christians strive for a classless society” is a complex one. Egalitarian ideals are very new compared to Christianity, but some Christians now think that in the “fallen world” authority is undesirable as it can be abused. This is not common though.

    However, Marxism is an anti-religious ideology. Marxists both believe that religion will disappear after “the base” changes and it will become, ultimately, obsolete, and also have historically persecuted and enacted violence on Christians. So I am not surprised there are not many Marxist Christians.



  • galanthus@lemmy.worldtoMemes@lemmy.mlCommunism in theory vs in practice
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    18 days ago

    Well, maybe I should not have used FRG and GDR as an example. I should say that this is not the point I was originally trying to make.

    I used those as an example because they are similar countries, and contrasted it with comparing a european nation with a undeveloped african/asian nation. I was not trying to criticise east germany really, and I admit there are many reasons why it was and still is I suppose lacking compared to the west.



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    18 days ago

    So you claim the USSR did not support East Germany because of anti-german sentiments, while the west invested quite a lot into the reconstruction of FRG. I am afraid I am not qualified to assess how accurate that claim is(the former half of it, specifically). But I am deeply skeptical about this, since it would be quite a useful propaganda tool both domestically and in the west. Also, the east had a communist government and it distanced itself from it’s past. The internationalist ideology of the USSR should have triumphed over the nationalist sentiments that might have existed.

    However, I should say, that the main point of my original comment still stands. Of course, there are always many factors at play and it is not the case that the disparity between the east and the west can be attributed to the economic system alone. However, this does not mean that such comparisons are not valid, and I still would say that comparing european countries to underdeveloped countries to say that life in eastern Europe “wasn’t that bad” is quite absurd.



  • Why would you not compare european communist countries woth european capitalist countries? Sure, africans and asians were poorer, but that goes without saying, honestly, what does that even have to do with this matter?

    East Germany was poorer than west Germany. That tells us something. The fact that Ethiopia or whatever was poorer does not really tell us much about ehich economic system is better.




  • I am sceptical of how one would be able to decipher Japanese as a European language speaker, it is very foreign. Also, just because in some specific cases the dub is of a low quality does not mean that it is always inferior. In fact, all things being equal I would prefer the language I can understand even if it is not tge original language.

    Howewer, I just watched “Mars Express” in french to see if I enjoy it, and it was kind of nice. The subtitles did not always translate what was said exactly from what I could gather, but I rather enjoy how the language sounds. I guess it makes sense to watch it in a specific language for the atmosphere.

    But now I feel stupid for not knowing french. Will have to start learning it I guess.