This is dumb, you can do America First policies and have FDR-type socialism, or Nordic model policies, together. American permanent residents and citizens should get benefits they pay for via their taxes. Simple.

A real goat 🐐

Animals. Cannot. Consent.

lol came out more intense than intended, but fr

Good luck, hope it gets resolved soon and you don’t have any bad affects on your treatment, this sucks

Trying to tell if someone is a patriot based on their race or sexual / gender orientation is fucked. There are and have been many straight, cis, white traitors of the U.S. government. It’s just insane and unreasonable to expect that just because someone is white or cis or male then they’re safe or want the best for their country. Truly magical thinking devoid from reality and facts.

The anti-trans angle doesn’t make sense, especially when all these people want to do is serve

I don’t want to derail the thread any further, but others have said this better already,

https://newdiscourses.com/2023/04/marxist-roots-of-dei-workshop-all-sessions/

Not sure I give too much credence to anything else on that site.

It seems a little unnecessary to spin words to be correct, you can just say you read it wrong or don’t respond 🤷‍♀️

Besides that, it’s okay. I know my anti-Marxist pov will always attract downvotes. I want to challenge the premise that a Marxist world is socially just or morally or ethically superior. I don’t want to troll or cause grief.

Dude you read what I wrote wrong, or you didn’t get the context, it’s okay to say that instead of whatever verbal gymnastics you’re saying now. Grow up lol

Depends on the state in the U.S., don’t know about other countries

Oh please, if you’re reading anything I am saying as racist you’re just fucked in the head

https://thehill.com/opinion/education/3718803-what-do-we-really-mean-by-diversity-equity-and-inclusion/amp/

I meant private ownership of the means of production,

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitalist_mode_of_production_(Marxist_theory)

The climate justice aspects of DEI are philosophically meant to normalize “anti-Imperialism”.

https://lawliberty.org/the-philosophy-underlying-dei/

Meanwhile there’s nothing anti- imperialist about something like Marxism or Stalinism, the only difference is you’re ruled either by a single tyrant or a committee of tyrants.

Edit I’ll just say this though, the sad thing to me is that so much of LGBT rights is wrapped up in postmodern ideology, but LGBT rights speak to fundamental aspects of being a person. LGBT rights don’t need postmodern ideology to validate those rights.

Can I ask a real question here? We know from being here on Lemmy that some people have a real hard-on for Marxism/Stalinism/Leninism. Why do these people think their pov is morally or ethically superior?

The whole DEI stuff seems a bit like a Trojan horse to sneak in Marxist propaganda. Forcing people to accept immigrants with different cultural pov in a democracy is dangerous because you can end up relinquishing your country to another country’s agenda.

Should people be more humane and considerate? Yes, fucking definitely. Should there be more regulations against some damaging effects of capitalism? Certainly.

Does that mean people want to give up the means of production? Absolutely not. Does that mean people want to live in a China-like situation where you cannot own the land your property is on? No.

Countries should be free to control immigration. That’s what sovereignty is. But the truth is simply this, all countries need immigrants, the natural competition created via the current state of capitalism demands this.

Tbf I just think it’s not up to me to redeem something by adding more flavor to it. Either it brings something to the table itself or it can just go (to the trash can)

I agree, I didn’t think this page was really edited though? Looks like a joke to me, though I didn’t check the Wikipedia

It’s a little silly equating one (albeit learned and genius) guy’s opinion as something which will work across the board for everyone, everywhere. There’s nothing democratic about socialism, just as there’s nothing democratic about the unregulated and oligarchic capitalism we have today.

At a very simple and human level, there are a number of explanations for why some elites and intellectuals gravitate towards socialism, this has been discussed to death in many places, but here’s an accessible article.

https://iea.org.uk/why-intellectuals-are-so-upset-by-the-injustices-of-capitalism/

To add some economist perspectives, here’s another article

https://www.ineteconomics.org/perspectives/blog/free-market-or-socialism-have-economists-really-anything-to-say

What I find interesting from the above article is that China currently does very efficient market socialism, which tbh if the U.S. was to implement would make the U.S. a more powerful economic force to contend with. The caveat will be that U.S. citizens will no longer have the right to means to production, or land ownership. Such systems have no respect for individual liberties. The relative rate of poverty and inequality in the U.S. does not merit this kind of shift versus what it sacrifices.

The only countries which have issues with capitalism are the economic loser countries. Here’s the problem though, there are so many examples of countries which could have been economic losers, but instead turned it around for them because those countries had good sense and controlled their levels of corruption. The only people in countries who have problems with capitalism are the economic losers. The best way to correct those woes is through taxation and social programs, not a forced or authoritarian formula of break-shit-and-take-shit.

Edit I won’t respond to any comments to my post, I just don’t have the time to poke at this today lol, but don’t take my no response as a signal of agreement, just saying

/lazyposting

Same NIH where this guy ran a decades long scam https://apnews.com/article/misconduct-alzheimers-parkinsons-research-nih-297a61dc69cb18965015381a911197ec

If they’re saying this is now because of DEI stuff, that’s just more optics and politics to cover up decades of NIH fraud and debauchery

Idk, some leftist people (including minorities) are energized and motivated, so it’s important not to get stuck in some weird self-defeating trap. Political up and downs happen every generation. Don’t fall for the doomer BS, it’s important to keep following through with your personal goals and persevere. Find a community and volunteer, take care of each other.

Ultimately people should seek to close gaps with others, and try to find common ground, while acknowledging that there are some values which cannot be compromised, like sacrificing someone’s humanity and (personal/psychological) safety.

I don’t know how