Phoenixz

You just gotta love the hallucinations people get when talking about certain groups. <Insert favorite group> were civil and masters of hidden science and never fought wars, that’s all inventions of the evil white man! We neeeeever did slaves, only white men did, and my group is so cultured, man!

The US right now is the strongest player on the world, but do not for a second think that your group would do less evil if they were in the place of the US.

Defend your country against assholes like Putin, for example?

I would worry about any extremist, no matter their race, belief system, sexual orientation, or whatever.

Extremists are not around for reasoning, they will implement what they want, no matter the cost, be it left or right wing

Maybe.

It’s also very true

Everything…? That is not helpful

And of course they will only go after proven illegals and they would never ever just do this

I thought that Stallone was a pretty decent guy, did I miss anything?

Only that it probably won’t backfire much on them, not as much as on everyone else

Some of you might die, but that is a sacrifice I am willing to make!

That’s sick man! Get some help!

He could use his Supreme Court given powers and do something with that?

No

Biden has his faults, sure, but Trump & co are on such another level that it’s literally not funny anymore

Or, and hear me out on this one, you’re a member of a group, like various other groups, that want to control every aspect of human lives, including sex, to bind them to our little group forever so we can control them even more?

So Proton is out.

Sorry, I won’t trust a service that licks fascist boots.

Oh yeah, though at this point who cares, it’s all bullshit

For sure. However, you’ll want allies, no matter how powerful you are. Maybe a Schengen type situation would be interesting?

A lot of values are similar, make an open trade and travel zone?

You are extremely oversimplifying a very complex situation.

The Mexican government consists of self serving corrupt assholes but also loads of people who genuinely try to make the country better. Mexico was a third world nation which has grown up tremendously in the past decades, but it still has ways to go.

Could they have done more / better? Sure, of course.

Is the US government complicit in the shit show going on now in Mexico, with their policies and actions? Absofuckinglutely, and a big part too.

Just because the Mexican government could have done better doesn’t mean the US government is off the hook

I get what you’re saying, I’m just saying that California under Canada would be off a LOT better than it is currently under the US.

But sure, go at it alone but make some sort of free trade and travel zone at least, ala Schengen in Europe.

Those are just solutions in waiting, I don’t see that as a barrier form California to join

Also, Canada NEEDS more citizens, getting a huge influx of higher educated people isn’t a bad deal.

Add the enormous economy and we have a winner

On the flip side…

California subsidizes the shit out of the rest of the USA, and relatively speaking gets less in return. Imagine no longer having to finance just about everything of failed religious states like Kentucky and Mississippi.

Also you wouldn’t have to deal with racist religious extremists. Like any country, we have our crazies but we’re not even close to the level of the US.

Financially it would be hugely beneficial to California to be part of Canada.

Also, get free healthcare, which is fucking awesome

We can equally share the .ca domains, it’s not like there are that many left anyway

Yeah no. The Mexican government has more than enough to be blamed for but saying that it’s 100% their fault is either hellish naive or just disingenuous.

The US drug policies have wrecked havoc on just about every Latin American country, but Colombia and Mexico have been hit the worst. The US arms policies makes it relatively easy to move heavy weaponry to Mexico from the US, that is if the US government isn’t sending these weapons themselves.

These policies still stand and with Trump coming in, I imagine they will just get worse.