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  • This is the straw man:

    Way I see it, you have two competing overarching theories, “spontaneous order” and “orchestrated order”.

    You’re assuming that there is order and working backwards.

    Sometimes people try to explain the formation of these theories in terms of fulfillment of an emotional need (“they can’t accept this would just happen so they need to pretend someone is in control”), which is just inaccurate.

    You didn’t explain how that was inaccurate. You just said they were using a “mental model”. Why are they using that mental model, though? It’s because they need somebody to be in control.

    This has actually been studied. Sociologists have studied conspiracy theorists, and they are often people with control issues.


  • You’re attacking a straw man. There are groups vying for control. The question is whether or not there is one group controlling everything, and I think that’s highly unlikely.

    Way I see it, you have two competing overarching theories, “spontaneous order” and “orchestrated order”.

    I see a lot of chaos, too. Conspiracy theorists will look at something that I regard as chaos (say, the Sandy Hook massacre) and say, “Oh, yeah, that was planned (by a conspiracy).” There seems to be an unwillingness to accept that there is a lot of chaos on the world, and while some things are controlled, much of it is not.