• A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    as someone who has strung a ton of lights the wrong way around on more than one occasion… I can understand the desire for some magic solution that doesnt require undoing and redoing your work…

    but fuck, You don’t mess around with electricity.

    People also make these stupid suicide cables to plug generators into houses during disasters, often backfeeding power into the lines that may be down and can cause serious injury to workers trying to restore power.

    • RegalPotoo@lemmy.world
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      7 months ago

      Yeah, there is a reason why proper installations require actual transfer switches or at least a manual interlock to prevent both feeds being connected at the same time. I’m also not sure what would happen if your generator was out of phase with the grid when it reenergised, but I’m sure it wouldn’t be good

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        7 months ago

        If your generator was connected to mains when they came back on it would probably just kill your generator. It is the least robust device in the chain. The next step is blowing up the transformer on the pole which is a spectacular light show. It is also very expensive, and will piss off your entire neighborhood who were just about to get power back and now have to wait for the power company to fix the transformer you blew up by being a dumb ass. Finally it is possible that you would trip out the switch yard which is going to make even more people angry. The biggest risk is you putting power back on the lines that people are working on. That transformer on the pole works both directions. It drops the usual 13.8kV on your local power lines to the 240/120V in your house. It will also turn the 120/240 from your generator into 13.8 on the lines that are being worked on. 13.8 will kill you before you even know you touched it. That is why line workers go through multiple tests before they get near lines they are working on. They will notice there is power on lines that are supposed to be dead. They will find where that power is coming from. They will fine you lots of money. There may be criminal charges.

    • Duamerthrax@lemmy.world
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      7 months ago

      Tell me you’ve never heard of an Interconnect and put the lives of every power line worker in your area at risk every time there’s a blackout without telling me…

    • Bgugi@lemmy.world
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      7 months ago

      Even with a generator, suicide cord is the WRONG way to do it.

      Not like that’ll stop anyone anyways.

  • TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    I used it to connect a generator to the wall and give me some temporary power in my house when I was renovating. It’s only dangerous if you are stupid.

    • Fiona@discuss.tchncs.de
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      7 months ago

      The backup-generator seems to be the one semi-legit use-case that keeps coming up where few people have been able to present a significantly better alternative.

      • hypeerror@sh.itjust.works
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        7 months ago

        The safe method for a generator is a transfer switch. With that cable you make your circuit breaker useless and could also send power back out to the street and harm someone working on the problem.

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        7 months ago

        There’s literally an approved solution to the problem designed explicitly to solve the problem.

        Install a transfer switch so you can disconnect utility power, switch to your generator and people can see the situation at the breaker.

        If you don’t have one, you use something called an “extension cord” to run power to your important devices for the duration of the outage.
        If you don’t know how to power a few appliances with a generator and some extension cords, you definitely shouldn’t be thinking you can use a dangerous cable that people who do know you should never use in the first place.

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      7 months ago

      Just because you didn’t get hurt doesn’t mean it wasn’t dangerous.

      There’s a reason the people who write the fire and electrical codes say that if you need to do something like that, you need to have a properly installed transfer switch.

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          7 months ago

          Yes, you minimize risk by being prudent and using reasonable and cost effective safety measures.

          In a car, that’s things like seatbelts, airbags, and other safety features.

          The equivalent for powering your house with a generator is the aforementioned transfer switch.

          What you’re doing is saying that driving a car without seatbelts or airbags is perfectly safe, you just need to not get in an accident.

          Stop powering your house with a generator plugged in via the dumbest possible cable and just install a fucking transfer switch. They’re not expensive and it keeps you from needlessly endangering people, or even just having a preposterously dangerous cord laying around.

        • tills13@lemmy.world
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          7 months ago

          You turn off the breaker. You plug your generator abomination into a receptacle. Your partner checks the panel – the breakers are off, it’s safe to work with the electrical! They kill themselves.

          You could just not be a threat to yourself and people around you.

    • Steak@lemmy.ca
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      7 months ago

      Not smart. You could kill yourself or some poor electrician working the problem outside your house somewhere.

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      7 months ago

      Strand of exterior lights, one end male plug one female. Idiots start to mount the lights with the female end near their outlet. Get done, become confused, go to store for male to male cord to plug into female end.

      The female end is for chaining multiple strands, not for supplying power (directly) from the power socket.

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        7 months ago

        The power can go through the female end just fine, that’s not the problem. The problem is people plug this “suicide cable” into the wall first, thus creating a 120v taser of sorts. Like someone else in this thread said, the only problem from cables like that is people tend to try to backfeed energy into the system with a generator or solar panels. Boom.

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    7 months ago

    I thought this was an anti homosexuality meme until I read the top comment.

    I’ve got to stop using Lemmy. It is changing me…