The Air Force is the only one of the military branches involved in President Donald Trump's mandated border mission to not disclose publicly the number of service members or what units they're coming from.
This is VERY COMMON practice for these situations.
No, no it’s not. Maybe when operating in dangerous missions while deployed overseas… While working on American soil? No.
None of the other branches being ordered to do similarly sketchy quasi unconstitutional work have removed their identifiers, none of the other branches have opted to classify the work they are doing.
The Air Force has a pretty well known history of racism, rape, and Christian nationalist in their command structure. Out of all the branches it doesn’t surprise me at all that the Air Force is the branch falling over itself to follow trump’s orders.
Yes it is, those are Fly Away Security Teams (FAST) or Ravens. Go look it up, 95% of the official Air Force photos of FAST/Raven show people without nametapes, example taken from here.
Furthermore:
I can just take my top off if it’s not too hot. My t-shirt does not have a nametape
I can just buy a nametape that says “Smith” or something common and you wouldn’t know the difference.
The Posse Comitatus Act is a United States federal law (18 U.S.C. § 1385, original at 20 Stat. 152) signed on June 18, 1878, by President Rutherford B. Hayes that limits the powers of the federal government in the use of federal military personnel to enforce domestic policies within the United States.
Out of all the branches it doesn’t surprise me at all that the Air Force is the branch falling over itself to follow trump’s orders.
I’m not sure how you can imply that you’re familiar with how the military operates and then say something as ignorant as this.
All branches of the military “fall over themselves” to follow the orders of the President. That’s literally how the chain of command works.
Be upset at Trump for assigning shit missions, but it’s incredibly ignorant to attack any specific branch of the military for following lawful orders.
What do you picture the alternative to be? That some Airman should get himself court marshalled for refusing the order to remove his name and unit patch?
Could you explain how transporting people to their country of origin is an illegal order?
Or, maybe explain how you would handle the order as an enlisted soldier?
The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when
called into the actual Service of the United States;
Befehl ist Befehl isn’t a valid defense.
There doesn’t need to be a valid defense because no crimes are alleged.
The Air Force is operating a flight, chartered by ICE, to transport foreign nationals to their country of origin. The people are in ICE custody, ICE is the law enforcement body who is transporting them for deportation.
The Air Force is no more enforcing domestic law than Delta is when ICE uses them to transport deportees.
I think Trump’s deportation program is massively destructive and likely violates the law in many places. But that doesn’t mean that literally every aspect of it is a crime and everyone involved is acting illegally.
The Air Force isn’t acting illegally by transporting ICE, which is the point of contention here. I mean, do you think that AFJAG is unaware that this is happening?
Don’t confuse getting upvotes from outrage junkies with having rational opinions.
Be upset at Trump for assigning shit missions, but it’s incredibly ignorant to attack any specific branch of the military for following lawful orders.
They are going above and beyond the assignment of the mission. As I said, the other branches have received similar orders but have made what they are doing public, and have not decided to operate anonymously.
That some Airman should get himself court marshalled for refusing the order to remove his name and unit patch?
Did I criticize the airman? No, I specifically criticized their command.
Could you explain how transporting people to their country of origin is an illegal order?
The Posse Comitatus Act is a United States federal law (18 U.S.C. § 1385, original at 20 Stat. 152) signed on June 18, 1878, by President Rutherford B. Hayes that limits the powers of the federal government in the use of federal military personnel to enforce domestic policies within the United States.
No, no it’s not. Maybe when operating in dangerous missions while deployed overseas… While working on American soil? No.
None of the other branches being ordered to do similarly sketchy quasi unconstitutional work have removed their identifiers, none of the other branches have opted to classify the work they are doing.
The Air Force has a pretty well known history of racism, rape, and Christian nationalist in their command structure. Out of all the branches it doesn’t surprise me at all that the Air Force is the branch falling over itself to follow trump’s orders.
Yes it is, those are Fly Away Security Teams (FAST) or Ravens. Go look it up, 95% of the official Air Force photos of FAST/Raven show people without nametapes, example taken from here.
Furthermore:
I can just take my top off if it’s not too hot. My t-shirt does not have a nametape
I can just buy a nametape that says “Smith” or something common and you wouldn’t know the difference.
And how often are they operating on American soil…?
24/7
The Posse Comitatus Act is a United States federal law (18 U.S.C. § 1385, original at 20 Stat. 152) signed on June 18, 1878, by President Rutherford B. Hayes that limits the powers of the federal government in the use of federal military personnel to enforce domestic policies within the United States.
Possie Comitatus has nothing to do with aircraft security.
Who said anything about aircraft security…?
They are being ordered to enforce domestic policy on us soil, which is exactly what the law is made to prevent.
Me, I did. That’s what Fly Away Security Teams do, that’s what the USAF uses to secure it’s aircraft, domestically and abroad.
Lol, do you think the plane is flying itself? The security of the plane isn’t a problem, the problem is the mission of the plane in the first place.
I’m not sure how you can imply that you’re familiar with how the military operates and then say something as ignorant as this.
All branches of the military “fall over themselves” to follow the orders of the President. That’s literally how the chain of command works.
Be upset at Trump for assigning shit missions, but it’s incredibly ignorant to attack any specific branch of the military for following lawful orders.
What do you picture the alternative to be? That some Airman should get himself court marshalled for refusing the order to remove his name and unit patch?
Could you explain how transporting people to their country of origin is an illegal order?
Or, maybe explain how you would handle the order as an enlisted soldier?
No, it isn’t. Supremacy lays with the constitution. Befehl ist Befehl isn’t a valid defense.
Yes, it is.
The Constitution:
There doesn’t need to be a valid defense because no crimes are alleged.
The Air Force is operating a flight, chartered by ICE, to transport foreign nationals to their country of origin. The people are in ICE custody, ICE is the law enforcement body who is transporting them for deportation.
The Air Force is no more enforcing domestic law than Delta is when ICE uses them to transport deportees.
I think Trump’s deportation program is massively destructive and likely violates the law in many places. But that doesn’t mean that literally every aspect of it is a crime and everyone involved is acting illegally.
The Air Force isn’t acting illegally by transporting ICE, which is the point of contention here. I mean, do you think that AFJAG is unaware that this is happening?
Don’t confuse getting upvotes from outrage junkies with having rational opinions.
They are going above and beyond the assignment of the mission. As I said, the other branches have received similar orders but have made what they are doing public, and have not decided to operate anonymously.
Did I criticize the airman? No, I specifically criticized their command.
The Posse Comitatus Act is a United States federal law (18 U.S.C. § 1385, original at 20 Stat. 152) signed on June 18, 1878, by President Rutherford B. Hayes that limits the powers of the federal government in the use of federal military personnel to enforce domestic policies within the United States.