• Pup Biru@aussie.zone
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    15 hours ago

    it’s a long road with a lot more steps but simply “destroying” the notion that democrats are the good guys simply gets you republicans and that’s gotta be the worst way to shift left ever

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        15 hours ago

        revolution is easy to say on the internet but at the end of the day a lot of people die

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          People die without revolution, historically revolutionary Socialism has come with dramatic improvements in quality of life for the Working Class. Taking down the US Empire would massively uplift the burden on the Global South as well.

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            perhaps, or perhaps it could be replaced by something worse. there are no guarantees

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              Read up on historical revolution, Socialist revolution has a great track record, and if the US Empire didn’t interfere it would be even better.

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                14 hours ago

                the nordic states seem to be doing pretty well at riding a good line, and whilst australia is far from socialist, what we have is working great too

                accident? no of course not… but consistency… a big bang “revolution” is the easy way out… it’s so easy to say you’ll fight for what you believe in when you don’t have to see what it’ll entail or what will come out the other side of it but the reality is far more bloody and is absolutely not what you have in your head afterwards

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                  the nordic countries do well at the cost of the third world. they are rich because of imperialism.

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                    14 hours ago

                    and you believe a revolution in the US will help the third world?

                    socialist countries are plenty capable of being exploitative too. a revolution doesn’t change the people - it changes the power structures