• solsangraal@lemmy.zip
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    19 hours ago

    if you’re hooked on nicotine and you havent tried them, then give nicotine pouches a try. i switched to them from vaping and all the asthma went away overnight. plus no one knows when you’ve got one under your lip

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      18 hours ago

      Do they offer low-nicotine ones to wean off? Or are you just limiting yourself to oral cancers instead of oral, lung, etc.?

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        15 hours ago

        I find the pouches really easy to quit cold turkey, so there’s not really a need to ween off once you’ve switched to them, but it is an option with pouches ranging from stupidly high to almost no nicotine content. It does suck for the first day not using them, but by day 3 I’ve completely forgotten they exist. Totally different experience quitting pouches vs a vape.

        I’ve quit and picked up the habit several times, mainly because they’re so easy to quit that I don’t see a huge harm in using them again after a long period without. I wouldn’t touch a vape again because it was such an effort and pain to quit.

        Also nicotine isn’t a carcinogen (tobacco is), and nicotine pouches are not linked to any cancer risk. Nicotine is basically as harmful as caffeine.

        Nicotine products in general have been linked to reproductive harms such as stillbirth, premature birth, and low birth weight. Conversely, non-tobacco-based nicotine pouches (also known as “nic pouches”) are classified as non-carcinogenic since nicotine itself is not a carcinogen. However, they are still harmful to cardiovascular health due to their nicotine content, and are associated with moderately higher risk of cardiovascular disease, stroke, and reproductive harms.

        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snus

        Nicotine itself is currently classified as non-carcinogenic according to the International Agency for Research on Cancer, and according to the Royal College of Physicians nicotine in itself is not a hazardous drug. In turn, it is hypothesized that if nicotine can be delivered without tobacco and smoke inhalation, most, if not all of the harm of smoking can be avoided. However, if not carcinogenic, nicotine is still moderately harmful to cardiovascular health, therefore long-term use of non-tobacco nicotine pouches very likely causes higher risks for cardiovascular diseases, stroke, and reproductive harms.

        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicotine_pouch

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        18 hours ago

        Yes, they do offer them in varying levels of nicotine. I decided about a month ago to stop vaping after doing it daily for 10 years. Ordered some patches and some gum, and while I was waiting on those I tried the pouches. They do work and you can get them in lower strengths to wean yourself off.

        If your goal is to quit nicotine entirely, be careful that you don’t just fully swap one addiction for another. I’m still working on getting off of the pouches, but it’s getting better, and my lungs feel so much better now.

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          14 hours ago

          NRT is a scam and your addiction is the scammer. You’re trying to stop poisoning yourself and you think you need a substitute for the poison! This isn’t benzos we’re talking about here, Nicotine has a half life of max two hours. The withdrawal is not that bad at all, it’s over within four days! I just reached 87 hrs nicotine free and it was a breeze, no titration or NRT or antidepressants or anything.

          JUST DO IT!!

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            12 hours ago

            I think the hard part is if you’re the type to crave nicotine when you’re extremely stressed out. I go through cycles where I’ll quit nicotine for a year or so, and then something really difficult would happen in my life and I’ll start back up again.