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    Up next: An AI-enabled Web Browser extension which

    • mutes the YouTube ads and overlays it with cute cat videos
    • clicks the “skip” button for you
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        And then the AI script retaliates by identifying and switching to matching videos on PeerTube, whilst also learning your viewing habits. A premium version offers a subscription which pays third world workers to complete the captcha on your behalf.

        Then Google users WEI to kill the extension.

        Then someone releases a VPS which runs Chrome and supplies the whole thing by Remote Desktop, with a client side app that integrates the behaviour…

        (just thinking of how it could go.)

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            I know you jest, but it’s not beyond the realm of possibility for some peer to peer system to exist, similar to bittorrent, which could distribute the load across viewers. Most people have half decent internet these days. This imaginary extension could recognise the YouTube video URL, check it’s DHT to see if anyone else has it, and if not it could capture the YouTube video and redistribute it to the next person who looked up the same URL. Stale videos could be deleted after a time.

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              So, basically torrenting but for YT videos. Pretty interesting on the technology side on how you’d handle unstable seeders, because after all it’s streamed content, which is different from your regular content you’d get.

              Now I realized YT videos buffer anyway.

              One could even dedicated a set amount of disk space for sole use of downloading videos automatically that server says they should, which could be algorithmically decided whether it’s needed due to high demand (need more seeds) or sort of archiving.

              Could be an interesting project, a decentralized youtube “archive”.

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      For real. I’m mostly excited for the possibility of getting a viable alternative to Google’s obvious disregard for human decency. Bring on the crowd funded video streaming apps!

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    Ad blockers are not allowed on YouTube

    • ad blockers are not “on youtube”, they are on my devices

    • allowed by whom?

    • fuck you

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      Just click the “not using an adblocker” button. If everyone does that it’ll probably whitelist the blockers, we can hope.

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    The really annoying part is YouTube gets all their content for free, while every other subscription video service pays for content.

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      They do, but the costs to store all of that high resolution video is enormous. Especially since it must be replicated to local repository for quicker access as popularity raises and removed when popularity falls on videos. The amount of content stored and served is significantly more than Netflix houses. That being said, ads are getting way too intrusive.

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      other streaming services dont let pretty much anyone upload gigabytes of video

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        Me gesturing at gazillions of porn sites that lets anyone upload any videos…

        If YouTube implodes, pornhub will immediately launch an sfw version to grab the fleeing content creators.

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          Honestly I’m surprised they haven’t done so already, they already have the tech to do it, probably need to scale it a bit.

          Now I wonder if there aren’t SFW videos in pornhub from people that want to upload videos but don’t want to use YouTube. Or NSFW video that aren’t really porn, like a random guy reviewing videogames naked for some reason. I’m not checking either.

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            I remember people from certain subreddits used to upload full movies to pornhub and share them for shit and giggles.

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    I actually don’t have a problem paying for online services. I host my own email, I pay for Kagi search and I do monthly donations to Mozilla and Wikipedia. What I have an issue with is services that start out as advertisement based and then introduce paid plans, because now you still have all these shitty mechanics just for driving up engagement which results in unhealthy incentives for content creators and rabbit holes. I want a service that is for YouTube what Kagi is to Google Search. But perhaps that model is too difficult to monetize, I don’t know.

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        Nebula is absolutely amazing, but it’s a very specific niche. I don’t think that kind of model could ever work outside of that genre of educational, super high production value content.

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          Honestly like the idea of nebula but most of the content from my favorite creators is like an hour long meanwhile I only watch something on YouTube if it’s less that 20 minutes

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          I disagree. I am on the fence about joining nebula, but that’s partially because I know I will binge through my favorite stuff then back on YouTube watching small time content.

          I would be more likely to pay a couple bucks a month or like $20 a year to a service specifically for small time creators trying to build up an audience. Or even some 15 year old that wanted to earn some candy or dirt bike money from their claymation videos or whatever.

          I spend a lot of time lying in bed thinking about all of the great art, poetry, songs, books, videos, plays, etc. That will never come to be because it’s stuck in someone’s mind and they don’t have the outlet and or incentive to put pencil to paper, turn on that cam, or finally record themselves when they set bow to string and start playing the work they had been creating for the last year.

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      I’ve been eying Kagi and Orion. How do you find Kagi? I spend so much time fighting with Google SEO if it’s half decent I would switch. I’m just wary that my searching methods wouldn’t work well in Kagi.

      Did you find it straightforward to adjust to how Kagi works?

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        I’m very happy with Kagi. I find the search results to be excellent. It does take a little bit of practice to get back into the habit of writing proper search queries instead of relying on google already having a profile of what you’re likely to want, but once you do its very solid. The features to promote or demote domains is also very useful.

        Funny thing is that occasionally I’ll search for something with Kagi and I’ll get no or very few results only to then try google. Google will then show me millions of results but it’s all unrelated, AI generated, SEO trash that’ll just waste my time. I’ll take no results over that any day.

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      [Raises hand] I’ve been paying for a family music plan for years now. YouTube Premium was always just bundled with it. If they ever stopped the bundling I’d hop back over to Spotify.

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        RIP Google Music.

        Also RIP Songza which Google bought, integrated into Google Music and then killed off when they forced everyone over to Youtube Music.

        Even then I still subscribed for a while and only dropped it recently.

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          Songza’s radio stations were incredible. I happily used that service every day and still miss it.

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      I pay 6$ using a student discount for YouTube premium because I like watching YouTube on my android TV and I can’t use ad blocker there. In fact I’ve been using it for so long that it actually shocks me when I see someone open YouTube and an ad pops up it feels weird

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    NewPipe, and YouTube Revanced are great apps you can use on mobile. They aren’t attached to any Google account so you can just use them and skip adds all day without getting any account theoretically banned.

    For those who continue to use YouTube and adblockers on PC, simply just make a new throwaway Google account. In the case that they aren’t actually bluffing (they are) then at least your temp account will be banned.

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      Revanced is great because it lets you watch without ads WITH Google account. I know that if you’re focused on privacy the last thing you want is Google account but for me the benefit of YouTube algorithm suggesting me exactly what I want to watch is enough the reason to not use any platform/app that doesn’t support login. Of course they need to try more before I’ll pay for premium. For now if that dialog ever shows up to me I’m setting my UA to Android and see if that happens on mobile YouTube as well. Since they don’t care too much about that version of YouTube it’s possible that dialog will not show up. If that’s blocked too I’m installing waydroid and revanced on it. Also I hope that development of VueTube will speed up because currently it’s so slow I’m not sure if it will ever be finished and it would be great to have alternatives to revanced.

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      Or just don’t use an account. I’ve been doing that since Google force merged YouTube and Google accounts in like 2011.

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    There is something fundamentally wrong with a service that shows more ads than content.

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    Getting banned from YouTube might be the best thing google has ever done for me

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    They force ads and steal money from the content creators, and people still flock to use their services. How fucking braindead can you be?

    Just stop using YouTube. That will fix their problems real quick.

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    Ah YouTube, the site where I watch a video that tells me in ten minutes what I could read in one. And only 5 advertisements!

    Oops, six. I forgot the ad the creator slipped in between minute 1 and 2.

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        No, they have a point. Because you earn money by views, people now make videos about everything instead of writing something somewhere that can be found by search engine. Video has its uses but it’s far overused nowadays and it sucks.

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          That’s why I use YouTubetranscript now to read through the video to see if it is even worth watching, since so much stuff is unnecessarily long due to how algorithms push those videos to the top.

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            Ctrl+F’ing my way through the transcript of a 38min crafting video to see when they’re ever actually going to do the thing they made the video about, if they ever get around to it at all.

            Somehow, more than once, the answer was no.

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      For close to 2 decades we had near 0 interest rates. VC daddies used that as an excuse to throw loads of money at every itiots pet project because hey, why not? They were able to absolutely roll in money and take out loans at criminally low rates.

      But now rates are getting back to actually sane levels again, and suddenly the vc daddies are all sad because the infinite money pit has dried up and they actually have to be responsible with their money again. So now they’re turning to all of the companies that they gave money to and are saying “hey remember when I gave you money? Pay me back now. I don’t care if it means you have to fundamentally change the service that’s making you money, get me my money or I’ll bring you down with it.”

      And since our economy is structured such that the money of wealthy people is more important than literally anything or anyone else in our society, the companies have no choice but to comply. So they all raise their prices and shore up the holes that weren’t letting them milk every cent out of their users.