Using my framework laptop feels like a never ending struggle sometimes but I really like the idea of modular, repairable laptops so here I am.
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I have the FW13 12th gen intel
The screen has a very slow pixel response time, the ghosting is absolutely real
The screen is wobbly when I type (fixable with upgraded hinges)
The track pad is constantly dropping inputs
The screen resolution is generally awkward and fractional scaling is still hit or miss on Linux
Updating to the latest firmware (BIOS) required me to install WINDOWS (just for the update)
For some reason switching to Linux kernel deep sleep mode causes a total system failure that can only be recovered by physically removing the battery and CMOS.
Physically removing the battery is sketchy
FWIW this is still my daily driver but I do sometimes consider seeing if anyone wants to trade for a ThinkPad haha
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If anyone has insight on the deep sleep issue I’m all eyes (biblically accurate angel mode).
Yeah I ran fedora for a while when I first got this since that’s one of the official distros but it seems like it would really just be a function of the kernel itself and the laptop firmware.
Going back to fedora does not enable deep sleep by default and I’m way too afraid to manually switch it again after having to pull the battery 5 times already in pursuit of a solution.
I’ve been told this just doesn’t/can’t work.
So basically unless someone can say “I experienced the same exact problem and here’s how I fixed it” I’m just too afraid to try again haha.
Framework advises not to pull the battery and they are not wrong in that advisement. It’s sketchy as hell.
When I enable deep sleep it prevents me from even accessing bios, so I can’t do the firmware battery disconnect at that point.
First three, and last one sound very Framework related, but I wonder about the others. I know hardware is often way too optimised for windows that Linux has to patch it in a way for Linux, such as your deep sleep issue. Hope it gets fixed.
Yeah, I’ve had one hardware glitch that support sent me a detailed video how to fix by resetting the mainboard within a few hours of writing them, fixed it within 10 minutes. Other than that any issues I’ve had are linux-funkiness, like odd sound profiles on the speakers that I could fix myself, and have been gradually taken care of through updates along the way.
What exactly are you unhappy about? I’m thinking of getting one soon-ish and would love to hear which negative experiences I could expect to bump into.
I like Fedora but I need some AUR wine applications and shadowsocks to smooth things out in Mainland China (am expat). Fedora cannot offer all of these easily, I’m not too well trained in building packages (I know it’s simple lol)
Using my framework laptop feels like a never ending struggle sometimes but I really like the idea of modular, repairable laptops so here I am.
Edit: I have the FW13 12th gen intel
deepsleep mode causes a total system failure that can only be recovered by physically removing the battery and CMOS.FWIW this is still my daily driver but I do sometimes consider seeing if anyone wants to trade for a ThinkPad haha
Edit 2: If anyone has insight on the
deepsleep issue I’m all eyes (biblically accurate angel mode).Have you used one of the Officially-supported distros to check if sleep works, like Fedora 42 or Bazzite?
Yeah I ran fedora for a while when I first got this since that’s one of the official distros but it seems like it would really just be a function of the kernel itself and the laptop firmware.
Going back to fedora does not enable
deepsleep by default and I’m way too afraid to manually switch it again after having to pull the battery 5 times already in pursuit of a solution.I’ve been told this just doesn’t/can’t work.
So basically unless someone can say “I experienced the same exact problem and here’s how I fixed it” I’m just too afraid to try again haha.
Framework advises not to pull the battery and they are not wrong in that advisement. It’s sketchy as hell.
When I enable
deepsleep it prevents me from even accessing bios, so I can’t do the firmware battery disconnect at that point.First three, and last one sound very Framework related, but I wonder about the others. I know hardware is often way too optimised for windows that Linux has to patch it in a way for Linux, such as your deep sleep issue. Hope it gets fixed.
Another satisfied Framework user here, wondering what kind of struggles you’ve been facing; I haven’t had any problems at all.
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I’ve had only positive experiences with mine. Also curious about what issues you ran into.
Yeah, I’ve had one hardware glitch that support sent me a detailed video how to fix by resetting the mainboard within a few hours of writing them, fixed it within 10 minutes. Other than that any issues I’ve had are linux-funkiness, like odd sound profiles on the speakers that I could fix myself, and have been gradually taken care of through updates along the way.
What exactly are you unhappy about? I’m thinking of getting one soon-ish and would love to hear which negative experiences I could expect to bump into.
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Thanks!
I’d consider trading my ThinkPad T14s haha.
Bring in some insight on your struggles! You using Arch on it?
You caught me (btw).
I’ve also ran fedora which is an officially support OS.
I like Fedora but I need some AUR wine applications and shadowsocks to smooth things out in Mainland China (am expat). Fedora cannot offer all of these easily, I’m not too well trained in building packages (I know it’s simple lol)
AUR is super cool (when it’s not getting DDOSed).
Building packages from scratch isn’t that hard usually but it can be and AUR really does simplify that.
Would love to know, my friend purchased one and it’s still within the return window.
Why’s that?
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Also curious why it’s such a struggle. I want one too so I’d like to know if there are issues with them.
Details on said struggles?
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