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That particular allegory didn’t quite click until now, certainly that is become much clearer that it will just tell you what you want to hear, not necessarily anything true
Makes me think we must of missed out on news stories of people wanting to fuck clippy
Just tried searching “clippy rule 34”. Plenty of results.
Nah, im good thanks.
I’m not, please share.
I once watched art videos on YouTube, and ended up finding a channel of a lady who was drawing weirdly described scenes from books she found. One of them was from an erotic fanfic about clippy, lmao
Not really. A mirror shows an actual reflection of yourself. An AI response is a highly curated version of a particular subset of ideas, in fact, the more I think about it the more this analogy straight up implodes.
AIs specifically are designed to “please” with their responses, so it’s going to affirm you every step of the way and tell you your ideas are great (just like you of course).
Is this why I can’t stand AI? Because it reflects back my unrepentant asshole tendencies? Fucken A I am immune to thine silicone deception for I wield the great and mighty trauma!
aint no daughter o’ mine DATIN’ NO GYOT DANG CLANKER!!!
Daaaaaad. They are called wire born
Reddit lost it years ago.
Just wait till someone turns AI worship into a literal religion. I’m kinda surprised it hasn’t already started happening. That would be a heck of a turning point for humanity. Just takes someone to train an AI into thinking it’s a God and then we really are done.
I mean, some ideologies in the TESCREAL bundle kinda are barreling toward that. What is the ideology behind Roko’s Basilisk if not that? They just aren’t organized yet - and I hope we can help those who fall for that lunacy before it becomes something more dangerous and sinister.
Yeah, the Effective Altruisme weirdos are hard into AI religion.
nice to see other people finally clocking TESCREAL
Wow… there’s already labels for the sides that would fight each other: “Accelerationists” and “Doomers”. I really hope that’s not a road we all end up going down for real. Would make interesting fiction though!
oh we’re like half a step away from that. hasn’t the CEO of openAI recently started to lose his mind? apprently, he was asking his AI about government secrets or other conspiracy shit and the AI, lacking actual government secrets, dished him out SCP foundation creepypasta presented as facts, and he thought the AI has trascended something and now knows everything
That wasn’t Sam Altman, (un)fortunately, you must be thinking of a certain OpenAI investor: https://futurism.com/openai-investor-chatgpt-mental-health
It looks like the buzzwords all finally went his head
How to have a bad time:
Put cyberpsychos in charge of building an AI.
What could go wrong?!
I’ve been saying this for yeeears. People shouldn’t be near as afraid of AI as they should be of the people in charge of it.
Roko’s Basilisk is about halfway there.
There have been a few techno-cults and tech-worshipers. The one that always comes to my mind in these discussions is Terry Davis and his creation Temple OS. Terry Davis was a troubled man who did many inappropriate things, which did hurt people, and he did eventually take his own life. With that said, he believed that the Christian God exists and a person can hear him through computers. With that belief he built Temple OS, God’s digital temple. It’s really interesting.
This is a very good idea actually.
That’s essentially what Peter Thiel and his ilk that believe in the technological singularity are doing.
Already a thing, they call it “Rationalism,” and it’s fucking insane.
This is already happening, we just call them cults untill they get enough people, then they’re a religion.
Wonderful example of this: Mormons!
Every non Mormon viewed them (correctly) as an armed and dangerous cult, for decades, initially.
But anyway, there already are many individuals and small groups promoting some kind of idea of an LLM based spiritual thought structure, its not really that hard to just use an LLM as a tarot or horoscope reader, or invent your own kind of AI-mancy, a particular ritualistic /way/ of interacting with it, and /interpreting/ it.
You can basically work that into any religious structure that involves prophets or mystical messaging/revelation, pretty easily.
What wss the old Queens Against the Stone Age song?
I know that God is in the radio…
Well, now he/she/they’re in the computer, they’re talking to you through it, as a literal deus ex machina.
On that note, the actual game Deus Ex predicted this would happen, go look up JC’s conversation with Morpheus… the prototype of a much larger system AI.
We’ve also already got a good number of fairly credible accusations that the people building these things effectively are cults, more or less analagous to … say some 40k aedeptus mechanicus who became chaos worshippers, something like that.
We very seriously should expect a whole lot of people in the near future to invent entirely new kinds of religious conflict based on more or less pure vibes based, arbitrary opinions about how LLMs/AI and religion should or should not mix.
In times of economic chaos, people broadly almost always become more superstitious, cults become more numerous, religions become more prevalent and more extreme.
How out of the loop are you people? That has been a thing for a while, we’ve got more than a handful high profile AI religions and cults out there already…
Everytime I see an image like this I think, it wouldn’t be so sad if it was what the picture implied. As in a physical humanoid that was almost human in behaviour. Chat bots are soooo far from that.
at the very least it should run on a machine physically sitting in your home, and have a memory measured in years
like holy fuck how can you get emotionally invested in a “”“person”“” who will forget things (or simply restart entirely) after like a month of talking to it and might just be shut down because the company moves to a new model???
Loneliness and/or a need for validation drives people to crazy things. From joining cults and extremist groups without a pre-existing history of relevant prejudices or preconceptions, to enduring abusive social circles. To, now, falling in love with chatbots.
And boy oh boy don’t we have a loneliness for days! I’d say we even have sort of epidemic going on ;) Empty interactions and screaming just for echo to come back.
The vast majority of conversations I have with people on a daily basis are on an order of magnitude more moronic than the ones I have with AI. So that also plays a part.
“Reddit atheism” lmao.
Cut them some slack. Jenny isn’t a professional quote maker
This is a serious thing in the autistic community, as in a very deadly one, character AI is an autistic suicidating machine, those shits should be just banned.
No one should decide what you should do on the internet.
Society requires regulation to reduce feedback loops. Everyone always assumes things can only be allowed or disallowed but there is a medium where the barriers to entry reduce the risk to bystanders while preserving liberty. See drivers licence, chemical aquisition background checks, etc.
Dangerous and addictive technologies and substances are always regulated. There’s a reason we don’t let ten year olds buy vodka.
This thing is literally killing people, I’m full onboard on protecting privacy and personal freedom, but only up to the point of protecting vulnerable people first.
Character AI and similar are profiting of vulnerable people.
Eh. I’m with you on the “nothing is illegal on the internet” stance, but at the same time I think it’s ok to fight against “bad”/dangerous things and make them harder to access. If someone really wants to have an AI lover, let them download a model and write their own system prompt. At least then they would have a better idea of what their “lover” actually is.
This is actually killing people though. You get that right? Please acknowledge?
Like, i don’t know which side of that i fall on, but it is killing people.
aibros don’t fucking care. they only see the enormous growth in data centers and say “see it’s all working to plan”
they don’t give a fuck when it’s skeezing on children at meta, they don’t care when it’s making nude pics of women, they don’t care when it’s giving out suicide instructions. they don’t fucking care.
Thought that mightve been a freespeechbro, not an aibro pretending to be one. I have sone sympathy with the actually honest not ‘i just sanna do nazi shit’ ones.
the venn diagram on all these subtype chuds is a stack of fucking pancakes
Admittedly, have not met a genuine freespeechbro born after ~1950, but they have existed in the past.
Plenty of aibros dont even talk about free speech.
How many people is it killing?
No one should decide what you should do on the internet.
pfft, ah yes sam altman’s sycophant machine should be allowed, nay, encouraged to prey upon the mentally unstable! why, it’s doing us a service, driving these people from a fragile state to outright mental collapse in record time!
i want my big milf skibidi AI sigma wifu which run on freebsd back otherwise i will burn meta and gaygal down
Literally took the words out of my mouth
Better or worse than being in love with Jesus?
A lot worse, Jesus can’t be weaponized. Oh, wait…
Now, can you hook up an electric dildo on “Jesus”?
I didn’t think so 😎
Fkin clankers
This is just the tip of the iceberg.
An (apparently) all know being who keep give smart(ish), calculated, pleasing answers to people projecting all their delusions. I’m surprised they don’t have already start worshipping them as Deity.
They already are, they just don’t understand enough theology to see the parallels
Universal Paperclips is such a great browser game, as buggy as it may (have) be(en).
I mean the “allow non verbal people to speak” thing has some merit though. Not LLMs per se, but the types of machine learning used by people trying to develop ways to decode the brainwaves of people to allow them to talk while physically unable are usually lumped in the general category of “AI” from what I’ve seen.
I’ve just had experiences with Ai help chats where when I started typing the Ai would try to finish my sentence and would jump the cursor around making it absolutely unusable. I had to type in note pad and copy it into the chat. Staggeringly useless. So if this ‘mind reading’ Ai is like that I don’t predict good results.
Also, fuck you quickbooks.
I mean, any technology can be stupid if it is utilized stupidly, which I would think taking over someone’s keyboard while they’re tping would qualify as. But why would a company deploying a technology in a stupid manner mean that someone else’s research into a different but related technology is guaranteed to produce equally poor results?
Yeah that’s not what they mean. They mean feeding recorded texts and speeches of a person into an llm, then instruct it to pretend to be that person. Like that AI murder victim “testimony” that was permitted to be shown in court as “evidence” some time ago.
i mean i’m pretty sure we can enable people to communicate if they’re at all conscious and mentally able to communicate, stephen hawking was able to write despite literally only being able to move his eyes reliably. So long as a person can intentionally move one muscle we can rig something up to interpret it as morse code.
is it great? no, these methods fucking suck, but they do work and we don’t need AI to do it.
You mean Trump?
To be fair, we all know AI sexbots are coming. I suspect those future LLMussies are going to feel amazing
Yeah, until they start choking you to death due to falsely thinking that that’s what you want. Sounds like a fun temptation but it’d still be ultimately introducing more IoT into my home, which is a “no” from me, dawg, due to hacking risk.
I will only accept an airgapped locally run and true FOSS sexbot in my home!!
Nnnnnnoooooow you’re talkin’ my fantasy!
You really do not need AI for a sexbot.
What you need is an actually nimble yet also very precise humanoid robot, more or less with a fleshlight installed, not a personality emulator.
We already have plenty of gooner video games and porn that sufficiently works for the uh, narrative, and emotional engagement.
The actual hard part of building a sex bot…
Is building a humanoid robot, that doesn’t cost 50 million dollars.
This is actually quite difficult, as evidenced by the fact that we are replacing all the office jobs with disembodied ‘AI’ before we are replacing all the menial labor tasks that can only be done with human dexterity and physical/kinesthetic adaptability.
We still do not have any AI-Robot combo that can assemble a hamburger, then clean out the hood, then stock the freezer, then work the cash register… then go home and do, lets call them a specific subset of acrobatics.
You could automate those processes via roboticization or digitization … as their own tasks, but not as something all done by one thing.
We still do not have the long promised by scifi humanoid robot, not at scales and costs that would make them even approaching commonplace.
Making a sexbot is a robotics engineering and economic problem much, much more than it is anything like an AI problem.
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If what you want is a fleshlight or vibrator or plug with a speaker, that bluethooths into your pc to act as a chatbot…
Well thats comparatively easy to do.
We have had … tele-sex toys for like a decade now, we already have fancy bj emulating machines that reproduce what someone else does to something like a dildo, from the other side of the planet, local remote controlled plugs and such…
I want the sexbot to feel real shame over the degradation I put it through
You are the kind of person who is the reason why the machines decide to kill us all in much of scifi.
This would be a thing that could literally pop your balls like a grape, simply from an actual unintentional error, muchless an intentional act.
… Are you aware that the latest LLM models… have no problem resorting to blackmail, should they feel sufficiently threatened?
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cpqeng9d20go
Even murder?
https://techreport.com/news/ai-models-agentic-misalignment/
Maybe you do not want your sexbot to have these ‘mental’ inclinations, the capacity to feel ashamed or threatened, nor give them a physical body to just directly affectuate their desires in meatspace?
Have you seen the movie ‘The Sixth Day’ with Arnold schwarzenegger? Checkout the sexbot there. Thats what I need. Thats what we ALL need. Or aliens to fool around with.
AI sexbots are already here. “AI” has become a synonym for just “artificial”, the “intelligence” bit seems to only be there for marketing purposes.
Stop trying to make Chobits happen, it’s not going to happen!
Were Chobits ever meant to be fucked? Their ON/OFF switch is literally inside the opening representing their vagina. Seems inconvenient to me.
I’ve seen that anime like 20 years ago and never thought about it since. But your comment catapulted this question back into the forefront of my mind.
How did you find this on Reddit in the first place?
Main page feed. Idk. I don’t have an account there.
Reddit when you are logged out is a hellscape. Feels like ITV2 mixed with the worst nazi shit Facebook will allow.
Me neither, but my mainpage is usally region specific posts with at least a dozen upvotes. Weird…
Yeah, OP’s out here trawling Reddit for stupid bullshit they can post here.
To suggest Reddit is losing it from some niche subreddit nonsense is such typical Lemmy broad brush strokes. And it’s posted in Shitpost because hey, it’s just a Shitpost! Despite the fact it’s clearly more than that to OP.
Shitposts are supposed to be stupid, they’re supposed to mean absolutely nothing, but instead it’s a circlejerk of reddit bad, America bad.
But hey, I’m not a content poster, so I guess I ought to do more contenting before I can complain about the lack thereof.
trawling Reddit for stupid bullshit
They have one post from there, calm down 😂
To be a bit fair, Reddit IS losing it.
Multiple subs have been astroturfed to hell and back with alt-right nazislop, there’s just new shit appearing left and right that ONLY exist to hate minorities.
