• gustofwind@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Weird how voting always seems to work for the right wing

    Maybe voting would actually work if…you know…you actually voted

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    Revolutions stand or fall with public support. Voting is the most visible way to establish public sentiment. People like to quote that only a third of the US actually elected Trump, but do we have a clear idea of just how many oppose him, if so many voters apparently never expressed their opinion in any measurable way?

    Doing nothing and complaining on the internet is useless. Doing something is scary. If you knew you had your community at your back, wouldn’t you feel more confident to step up?

    You’re right that people need to know that voting won’t be enough, but it’s still important in order to communicate the public opinion that separates a revolution from a coup.

  • HazardousBanjo@lemmy.worldBanned from community
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    2 months ago

    Here’s the thing:

    I didn’t believe for a second that a Kamala victory would have crushed fascism forever.

    In fact, I’m positive the GOP would place Trump’s cold corpse as their nominee in all future elections if they had to.

    The problem is simple:

    Fascists are in power right now.

    They wouldn’t be in nearly as much power if Kamala had won

    Because the fascists are in power, its exceedingly unlikely we’ll ever have a fair election again with this government

    That wouldn’t be nearly as likely to be the case if Kamala had won.

    Furthermore, I’m tired of white leftists screaming for revolution while they themselves know damn good and well they’d never fight in one themselves, and they wouldn’t suffer even close to as much as racial, sexual and gender minorities will in resisting fascism.

    The white leftists who refused to vote for Kamala suffer nowhere near as much as any minority living under Trump, and they knew that and still relax with their arms behind their heads today.

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      The white leftists who refused to vote for Kamala suffer nowhere near as much as any minority loving under Trump, and they knew that and still relax with their arms behind their heads today

      The smug liberals who refused to have a backbone or humanity in the face of their party’s genocide suffer nowhere near as much as Palestinans suffered under Biden and Harris, and they knew that and still relax with their fingers in their ears today

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    2 months ago

    Well, how about we just try it first instead of resorting to instant armed combat against our own government or a civil war?

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        Yes but my 12 gauge shotgun and my .22 riffle and my .45 handgun seem to be a tad lopsided against their tanks and drones and guided missiles so sorry if I’m not ready to pounce just yet.

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          2 months ago

          Totally valid. You’re right. Under those conditions, voting will definitely work. But only if you shame people on the Internet to vote the correct way.

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    2 months ago

    I mean this isn’t a “white lib” thing. Most people don’t want political violence or related.

        • You ever fuckin’ seen a homeless person? How about the miles and miles of tents along stretches of highways just outside the cities? That’s one of many other forms of political violence. Remember how we stopped counting the death toll from Covid and were all told to get back to work? You know how many “incarcerated” “prisoners” we have doing slave labor? GTFO with your “have to be chronically online to see any political violence” bullshit. You’re fucking steeped in it but you’re too blind to see even what’s right in front of you, even if it’s a boot your tongue is apparently stuck to.

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          I can log out right now and go downtown to see tent cities full of starving, sick people. You only don’t perceive that as political violence because you’ve been trained to think poverty isn’t political.