• TachyonTele@piefed.social
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    2 months ago

    You know how at some point people always say “id still work when I’m retired” like it’s some sort of badge of honor? Like their character integrity would be hurt if they didn’t.

    Fuck that. I retired and immediately stopped working. Life is amazing when you don’t have to be somewhere every morning rain or shine. I don’t want to be anywhere i don’t want to be anymore.

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      I want to retire early, but I would still keep working because I find what I do stimulating and rewarding.

      Retirement for me would be working small jobs that I want to do, and taking classes that I find interesting. I’d probably be taking jobs at small businesses and charities.

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        Similarly, my fantasy is that If I won the lottery, or otherwise became independently wealthy, I’d be doing a ton of different entry-level jobs to find one that hit as a passion.

        Construction worker, stagehand, (i’ve already been retail), food service, intern for anything that requires a degree I don’t have, etc.

        I like my current job but if I didn’t need the paycheck then I’m not sure I’d stay. I might stick around if I could negotiate terms and only do the parts I liked, though.

        I wish I could learn a little about everything, but our culture pushes us to commit and be deep instead, and then we get stuck in a job that used to be a fun hobby.

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        I would “work” as in do what I do for a living but not at the behest of someone else. I would only create for my own use and enjoyment.

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      I think almost everyone wants to work except not what work means today. I doubt anyone wants to sit home and stare at the wall and even if they want to why not just let them instead for them to make problems.

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      2 months ago

      The year of Covid lockdown that I didn’t go to work was the most amazing time.

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      I work to live and not the other way around. As soon as I can afford not to work anymore, you can be assured that I won’t. The wife and I have plans to retire to SE Asia, so hopefully just a few more years or so.

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      If I’m doing it for free, it’s going to be open source or I’m owning part of it.

      You want to own what I make, I’m getting paid.

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    Oh so they want the we’re family mindset?

    “Since we’re family, could you help me take care of grandma tonight?”

    “Will you be at my mom’s funeral? Can you help with the flowers?”

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    Shit, my boss knows perfectly well that if he didn’t pay me, I’d be working for his competitor. It just so happens that I am widly nerdy about what we do, and absolutely love everything about my job, so I am willing to actually do it with a smile on my face, but there is an unspoken agreement, that the absolutely only thing that is actually getting me out of bed in the morning, is the fact that I get paid.

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    I guess that I’m going a bit against the anti work consensus around here, but does everyone hate their job on Lemmy? I wouldn’t want to work for free, but I enjoy my audio engineering job

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      So, I’m a teacher, and I love my career. The fact that I get paid good money to hang out with teenagers and make a difference in so many lives is almost mind-boggling to me. But it’s still work. The job is exhausting, prep work and grading both suck, and I’m never happy to wake up at 7am. I’d never do it for free, and I’m always excited to have a day off.

      The days off make me appreciate my job, and the shitty, boring parts of the job make me appreciate my time off. There’s a gap between “I love my job” and “my job isn’t even work,” and many people struggle to grasp that.

      As an aside, the anti-work sentiment around here is less a rejection of engaging with a task that betters society, and more about the current system of work and pay, where our labour disproportionately benefits others. Most “anti-work” people want to have a task that adds value to the world, and despise aimless, soulless corporate tasks that benefit CEOs and share holders.

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        Im so surprised you like to hang out with teenagers when you are an adult…maybe you are in your 20s still.

        But all my own memories from school was horrible so once i left that place, it was a huge relief to never be there again.

        You are right about the anti work thing. Its the meaningless jobs people despise.

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          Honestly, it’s because I’m well into my 30s that I appreciate them. They give me perspective that I won’t find elsewhere in my life, and make me feel like my job is having a real impact. There are lives out there that are a little better for having me in them, and that feeds back into me, too. And being around them helps me from becoming some jaded old dude. These aren’t things people worry about in their 20s.

          Obviously some of them annoy the shit out of me, and even the best of them has more energy than I can find over the course of the day. But I only have them until ~3 and then they go back to their parents and I get to relax. I think it’s easy find the good in every type of kid when you know that your time with them is fleeting.

          And when I think about getting paid a salary to do this as opposed to anything else in the world? I mean, yeah, it feels like a genuine treat. I don’t have to come home tired and covered in sterilized grease the way I did in college, when I cooked my way through my degree, and I don’t need to come home physically worn and covered in motor oil the way my father did. Saying “I get to hang out with kids all day” is definitely downplaying the real work a bit, of which there is a ton, but at the end of the day, I really do genuinely feel lucky to have this way of living available to me.

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            Thats very cool. I have always only worked office jobs, and they are quite boring. It seems to be like that in society, the people who really makes a difference for others get paid the least amount of money.

            I think you are special souls who do jobs like that, not thinking of status or money whatsoever. And you do make a difference for the kids, obviously. I couldnt do it, because it takes a whole different level of patience and willingness to work in a quite chaotic environment… Its impressive. You are a good person. :)

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              I appreciate the sentiment, but I get paid decent money, too. The “teachers don’t make anything” myth is really just select portions of the US. Once I am finished my masters, I’ll be well above the 6-digit mark in CAD.

              Though you’re certainly on to something in that more impactful jobs tend to get paid less. Even in the school, watching the support staff who work with our highest need students, knowing that I’m probably a tax bracket above them… Well, it feels very unfair, to say the least.

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                I think everything is unfair in our lives. You know, stuff like looks, health, intelligence, parents, country, everything.

                But it doesnt help that our societies are adding extra not needed unfairness on top :)

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          I’m in my mid-forties and most of my co-workers are in their early 20s. It can be weird but I don’t dislike it.

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            Good. :)

            Im sure you are making a difference. Mid-fourties means you have some life wisdom to share also.

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    even the person who was paid to our that sign up… they wouldn’t be there doing that if not for the paycheck.

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    EMPLOYER

    ATTITUDES

    We don’t expect the

    ownership to pay

    wages with a[n] "I’m just

    here for the labor"

    mindset.

    -Employment

    Sure, we agreed that I would get paid at least this much in our contract, but haven’t you ever heard of “going the extra mile”? Don’t you want to pay more than just the bare minimum? C’mon, be a team player!

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    US version:

    I’m here for a paycheck and insurance so I can afford medication to not die.

    Because I need to pay my high medical deductible, daycare expenses, mortgage, and a car payment that adds up to about $60,000 a year from my yearly income of $65,000 gross before taxes.

    Oh yeah and the coffee is free, which helps, because rich people tell us, all this burden would go away if we didn’t buy Starbucks so often.