Introducing Proton Sheets: Secure spreadsheets for business | Proton
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Proton Drive now includes Proton Sheets, giving you secure, encrypted spreadsheets for safer collaboration, organized data, and aligned teams.
  • user@startrek.websiteEnglish
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    2 months ago

    Good news! Unfortunately I’m not sold on having to have a bridge to access their email using Thinderbird, so I’m not subscribing Proton Unlimited “suite”. Also no working Linux client for Proton Drive (rclone’s is unmaintained and not working).

    • iglou@programming.devEnglish
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      2 months ago

      It is technically impossible at the moment to keep your emails end-to-end encrypted and not have to use a bridge for your client of choice. It will only be possible if your client of choice partners with Proton to integrate them, or if a standard for e2e encrypted emails pops up and both Proton and your client adopt it.

      • iglou@programming.devEnglish
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        2 months ago

        Problem is the e2e encryption. The bridge basically decrypts your emails and makes them locally accessible.

  • gtr@programming.devEnglish
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    2 months ago

    With all these web based office suites popping up, I wonder if anybody needs these? It seems like a solution pushed onto us that nobody asked for. Everybody I know is still using MS Office or Libreoffice and everybody seems to agree that office on mobile devices sucks.

  • sunbeam60@feddit.ukEnglish
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    2 months ago

    Does if have FILTER, array formulas, spill zones, MAP, data tables, query engines, SQL engine etc etc?

    To compete with Word: Easy. To compete with Excel: Very, very difficult (pretty much only Google Sheets have managed).

      • sunbeam60@feddit.ukEnglish
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        2 months ago

        In a personal context, agreed. In a business context, I completely disagree. Analysts, finance, operations etc all have much more complex requirements.

      • sunbeam60@feddit.ukEnglish
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        2 months ago

        Google Sheets is competing with Excel. Proton Sheets is competing with Google Sheets. So Proton Sheets is competing with Excel.

        I used Word as a comparative example to say that parts of the office/docs suite are easy to compete with (there’s only so may things a word processor can do), while others (like Google Sheets or Excel, whichever order you prefer) is incredibly difficult to compete with; a formatting error on import of a Word doc is acceptable. An unsupported formula ruins the entire thing.

  • Cyberflunk@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    2 months ago

    proton isn’t your friend I keep seeing people recommend protonmail like it’s some kind of activist infrastructure and it’s starting to bug me remember in 2021 when they handed over a french climate activist’s IP to the cops? swiss court order, data went through europol, person got arrested. this was while their website was still implying they couldn’t log you. they quietly changed the wording after they got caught and like… switzerland isn’t what people think it is. they have treaties with the US and EU, they share intelligence, their whole “neutrality” thing has always been about protecting money, not people. ask any dictator who parked their cash there also proton took VC money. it’s not a co-op, it’s not worker owned, it’s a company that sells privacy as a product. which means eventually the investors are going to want their returns and something’s gotta give none of this means “don’t use it” - it’s still better than google. but e2ee doesn’t hide metadata and metadata is often enough. your threat model matters. a corporation is not going to protect you from the state, ever

    • 9488fcea02a9@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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      2 months ago

      Nobody is your friend… but at least proton isnt logging your data and selling ads into your inbox… that’s good enough for me…

      Check your threat model… 90% of people arent doing direct action that needs protection from nation states… and proton isnt big enough to protect you from nation states. (pretty sure they tell you that they have to comply with legal, swiss laws)

      Stop trying to scare people into going back to gmail… there will always be flaws in proton/tuta/whatever mail service…

      Go try running your own email if you truly need perfect privacy and anonymity