>Be born in an oppressive regime
>Escape from the oppressive regime
>Your new country also become an oppressive regimeWelcome to the 2020s! Fun times all around.
I can think of a few citizens who’d I trade for her.
im a call it as i see it, Trump’s SS(ICE) soldiers rounding up more innocent law biding citizens,
Kashanian came to the United States in 1978 on a student visa and eventually applied for asylum, but her claim was denied. Federal officials granted her a reprieve to stay in the country provided she follow the law and appear at regular immigration appointments. Family members say Kashanian never missed one of those appointments and has never been accused of a crime.
SO glad that we don’t have Killer Kamala tho! Woulda been way worse, right guys?
100% our inflation would have been higher and we would have been involved in 3 wars by now. - my dad
On the other hand, if Kamala had won there would be people dying in Gaza right now. Oh, wait…
people dying in Gaza
Now Iranians too, both in the US and in Iran
Quit bickering and go fight your dictator.
Part of that is dragging idiots who fell for the propaganda and didn’t vote, so they do better next time. It’s a multi-faceted issue.
Motherfucker we are TRYING.
So glad Kamala lost. Fuck her
So…Trump is what you really wanted?
I hate Kamala for her seemingly immeasurable corporate platitudinous banality and her lack of anything insightful to say about economics or geopolitics, but I’m not “glad” she lost to Donnie Drumpf.
DNC and democrat leadership is so out of touch they need to keep getting bitch slapped because of their shitty candidates.
I’m glad Kamala lost because she was a shitty candidate. It’s not black and white as the pinhead reductionists make it out to be.
She was a shitty candidate. Drumpf is shittier. I’m not “glad” she lost.
While I’m not going to say I’m “glad” she lost, which would thereby mean that I’m glad that there’s so much more fear and suffering in the country, I think there’s some merit to the idea that electing Kamala would have just resulted in more of the status quo that people were clearly becoming disenchanted with and, perhaps, in the long run, Trump being elected sooner is going to ultimately result in less harm as people are incentivized to push back sooner and harder because they’re less worn down than they otherwise would be.
Really, idk though, I don’t have a window into the alternate universe where that happened. This is all just kinda shit. @DancingBear really should be making that point if that’s what they believe instead of being rude about it.
Can I not be happy someone lost? I’m not happy Trump won… but I’m definitely happy Kamala lost…
It’s not my fault that the Dems offered such a shitty candidate…
I’m glad she lost…
Yeah so you said you embarrassment of a human, strait up just fucking a parrot 🦜
Squaaaaak I’m glad, squaaaaak, I’m glad lol
🌈 🦄
Your account is 14 days old and you are sending me private messages for no reason…
Not creepy at all
130 Democrats just voted against impeaching Trump.
Yes, I’m aware. I don’t know how that’s relevant to the argument that Kamala, despite being a terrible candidate, would have been better for civilization as president than Drumpf.
this is kinda silly and completely irrelevant, but it’s kinda awesome seeing you pop up here of all places.
also, 100% nail on the head
Short term Trump is way worse.
Long term there is a small chance this will make the Democrats less of a facist-lite party.
And how many are going to conspire against Mamdani after he beat Cuomo in the NYC mayor primary?
Lots.
Fuck off, nazi
Yeah we’d be in such a great place if we elected the people who just sided with Republicans against impeaching Trump. They really have our best interests at heart.
Can you cut this shit out already? It’s bad enough that you’re using the suffering of living, breathing people to make a point, but if you have to then can you not at least make a point that’s not tired, unproductive and fucking stupid?
No one on this point is using living breathing people to make a point. They are mentioning the facts to make a point.
Meanwhile leading up to the election a never ending stream of folks saying KaMaLa = GeNoCiDe JoE….
Those folks were abusing the suffering of living and breathing people to make a point… a point that got us here with the trump admin… killing and making people suffer…
We’re going to rub this shit in your face until the US has universal health care. Your guy is the worst thing that has happened to the US in recent history, get over it
Possibly in all of history.
I was going to argue that the Trail of Tears was probably worse, but then I had to pause because he was almost definitely inspired by it (or at least his handlers were). So you got me there
First thing that occurred to me:
Deaths from trail of Tears: 6,000-8,000
Deaths from first Covid-19 pandemic in the United States between March and June 2020: 125,000
Numbers surely don’t tell the whole story. What happened to the Cherokee was a dramatic loss for many reasons, and basically amounted to genocide or ethnic cleansing. That’s very much where the USA is (or is headed) right now, too. Loss of life due to covid was a tragedy, but it has nothing on the evil that was the Trail of Tears.
He is certainly not “my” guy, but that doesn’t make “so glad we don’t have Harris amirite???” any less callous or less trite.
You’re misusing both “callous” and “trite” here.
Nothing in those comments is emotionally indifferent to suffering—callous would be mocking the deaths in Gaza or treating them as irrelevant. That’s not what’s happening. What’s happening is that people are pointing out the bitter irony of having been told Kamala would somehow be worse than Trump, only to end up with this gestures around broadly at the country. That’s not callous—that’s commentary. And it lands because people still care, and many of us don’t plan to stop caring.
As for trite, no. Trite implies the idea is overused and devoid of meaning. But if people keep bringing it up, that’s probably because the damage keeps compounding and the folks who helped enable it (Read: people like you) still haven’t taken any accountability. The criticism isn’t tired—it’s still relevant. If that makes you uncomfortable, maybe ask why. Or don’t, but at least shut up with your whinging.
Nobody’s “rubbing it in your face.” They’re just not letting you memory-hole the consequences of your own choices. That’s not cruelty—that’s accountability; something else we are sorely lacking in our government right now, thanks to idiots who abstained from voting for ’moral’ reasons.
What’s happening is that people are pointing out the bitter irony of having been told Kamala would somehow be worse than Trump, only to end up with this gestures around broadly at the country.
First, I’m not aware of “Harris will be worse than Trump” being a popular position anywhere on Lemmy. Second, nothing about this circlejerk is bitter, but even if it was: “I told you so” is fine for the first few times—I don’t agree with that characterization, but that’s just politics—but when we’re more than five months into this shit and people’s suffering is still being used to smugly make the exact same point, we’ve already passed the point where anything about this is productive. The election is over and at this rate American democracy is going to be dead by the next election.
Trite implies the idea is overused and devoid of meaning.
Again, there is no meaning being conveyed here. Nobody who wasn’t convinced the first 100 times is going to be convinced the 101th—I am certainly not any more convinced now than when I opened this thread—so what you’re left with is a circlejerk more about making oneself feel good than causing any positive change.
If that makes you uncomfortable, maybe ask why.
Because I don’t like to circlejerk with the suffering of people.
Nobody’s “rubbing it in your face.”
We’re going to rub this shit in your face until the US has universal health care.
-The guy I was responding to.
They’re just not letting you memory-hole the consequences of your own choices.
What a coincidence, because I think this is the consequences of your actions, but again that’s not the point. We can argue whose fault Trump 2 was without the circlejerking.
something else we are sorely lacking in our government right now, thanks to idiots who abstained from voting for ’moral’ reasons.
Uh… you do realize that people who didn’t vote were overwhelmingly moderates, right? The pro-Palestine left did turn out for Harris, and it did them exactly zero good.
Can YOU cut this shit out already?
This person literally just went “no u”.
Nuts to that. Op keep doing it.
Fuck Trump
Fascist.
Shut up, bootlicker.
So when are you flying to Palestine to help them?
Do you think Gaza is the only place in the world where innocent civilians are dying in some conflict, it’s not, but you aren’t gonna write free XYZ country in your dating profile bio cause that’s not trendy with white people right now.
Who’s being more disrespectful, the people who are concerned with the health and democratic saftey of their own country or the ones using some conflict in a far off place as a substitute for personality and to virtue signal on social media as if slogans lime BLM and free Palestine do anything to help these groups of people.
Focus on your own shit, people will kill and be killed till our species goes extinct. That’s not a reason to ruin your own country by fucking with the voting process leaving an easy path for fascists to take control of the government.
Are you fucking kidding me? Israel is armed, funded and protected by America, by your elected officials, using your tax money. Don’t think that by saying “oh, but it’s another country,” you can get away from this responsibility. What next? Were the Nicaraguan death squads just another group in South America? It cannot be understated just how morally reprehensible what you just said is. The misery of hundreds of millions of people today was caused by American meddling and you’re completely sweeping that under the rug. Shame on you.
Who’s being more disrespectful, the people who are concerned with the health and democratic saftey of their own country or the ones using some conflict in a far off place as a substitute for personality and to virtue signal on social media as if slogans lime BLM and free Palestine do anything to help these groups of people.
Don’t project your own lack of principles on me, but also: absolutely the former. At least have the honesty to confront the fact that you don’t care if your government keeps supporting genocide.
I hate that this what the US goverment is doing with my taxes and voting for the right candidate even if they won’t immediately solve these problems is the only real way to have any influence on this issue, no amount of tweets and social media posts will affect the US foreign policy, so long as some rich Americans have financial and political interests in funding wars in the middle east and politicians are available to sell out the country for a quick buck.
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“We proactively deliver on President Trump’s mandate to secure the homeland,” spokesperson Tricia McLaughlin wrote.
Nazi vibes.
Never forget that the President is of pure German ancestry. It’s in his DNA.
Might as well just deport everyone except the native Americans at this point.
They were floating the idea earlier this year of finding a way to strip indigenous people of their citizenship.
SCROTUS recently decided that the president has the power to deport people to countries they have no connection to, so what’s to stop them from finishing the Trail of Tears?
They’re already being harassed by ICE just for being brown. I’m sure their pea brains can’t comprehend a brown person that’s full-blooded American
More American than any of the white people on the continent, that’s for sure.
Ha ha ha! He’s just kidding white people!
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Americans, bringing “this is not acceptable” to a gunfight
Stephen Miller and Tom Homan won’t be happy until the country is purged of good family people and filled with jackbooted state thugs and white supremacists.
I am of the opinion that Steven Miller will never be happy
I don’t think anyone in that pack of ghouls is living a happy life. You can’t be happy when all you do is hate hate hate.
I tried to convince someone a few weeks back that shared hatred was not a solid foundation for a strong, enduring relationship. I don’t think successfully convinced them.
Fascists require a social hierarchy that is strictly enforced by force. Even if they did purge the US of all “undesirables”, the bootlickers would be snapping at each other’s throats over some other characteristic.
The concept of “natural hierarchy” drives fascism, and religion, that’s why they almost always go hand in hand. Even when it’s not a traditional religion it’s still a cult atmosphere where one person or “the state” is essentially worshiped. As long as religion exists fascism will exist.
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Is feeling things legal?
Like feelings. Not actual things.
