Edit: Oops, it is /r/Tennessee, not /r/ProgressiveHQ

  • defunct_punk@lemmy.world
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    28 days ago

    Tennessean here who tried to organize on my state/city subreddits. Can confirm this kind of partisan censorship is not new.

    A while ago I made a innocuous enough post on my city’s sub about a “Release the Epstein Files” billboard that went up and was paid for by our local Mobilize chapter. Within an hour it was the most upvoted post of the past month. Within 2, it was removed without reason and I was blocked and banned permantly

    • RustyShackleford@piefed.social
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      28 days ago

      That’s Reddit, I was banned from a Pokemon Go subreddit for being against Niantic forcibly leaving their sandbox environment on iOS.

      • CatsPajamas@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        27 days ago

        I was banned from Reddit by Reddit for calling out a shill. And then they censored my post and deleted it from my data request so that it was impossible to prove I wasn’t inciting violence. That whole place is fucked.

        • RustyShackleford@piefed.social
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          27 days ago

          It sounds exactly like the behavior of Reddit moderators. The entire platform was a form of hidden marketing; if anyone discovered it, they would flag or ban you.

      • LOGIC💣@lemmy.world
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        28 days ago

        We need to be careful on Lemmy. Only the fact that the moderators and admins have goodwill are keeping Lemmy from becoming like Reddit. If Lemmy gets big and starts attracting people who want to pay to take over communities, that will stretch the moderator goodwill to the limits.

        • Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          28 days ago

          The difference being that Lemmy supports multiple communities with the same name.

          If an instance is allowing their communities to be sold, they can be defederated.

          • LOGIC💣@lemmy.world
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            28 days ago

            As the number of users goes up, it becomes more difficult to enforce that way. Even if many people switch communities, when new ones search for the community by name, the one with the most users will pop up first. And it becomes more and more difficult to justify defederating an instance over a couple of communities if the instance has a ton of big communities.

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              28 days ago

              It makes me think that maybe “communities” wasn’t the way to organize, maybe you subscribe to a topic and see all posts for that topic on all instances.
              But moderation is good, and defederation is too severe a tool to use for moderation. It feels like there is no good solution.

              • illi@piefed.social
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                28 days ago

                Piefed has topics I think (I’m mostly on mobile so not something I use but I remember it being there when I set up my account)

      • AmbientChaos@sh.itjust.works
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        27 days ago

        Super curious about the Pokemon Go thing, wasn’t able to find anything on Google though. Could you tell what to search or share a link? Thanks <3

        • RustyShackleford@piefed.social
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          27 days ago

          Reddit mostly cleared that up by deleting the posts, and banning the users. They couldn’t risk looking like they did anything wrong, like working alongside a company to check for running apps on iOS, when it’s specifically designed to be sandboxed. Not surprisingly, other users discovered Apple was turning a blind eye to the attempts to check systems memory for hooks.

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    28 days ago

    Wow. Just fucking wow.

    Does Facebook and X do similar types of censoring when it comes to the Republican agenda?

    Or is it somehow easier to install them as mods on Reddit subs, making it appear to be more “grass roots” without blaming the platform itself for censorship and bias?

    I guess of fb you have “groups” (as opposed to subs) where you could install similar “mods.”

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      28 days ago

      Reddit’s glory days were when it was big enough to have consistently interesting stuff, especially in the niche subs, but not so big that bad actors (corporatization, foreign influence, domestic partisan bots, hate groups) could enshitify it. Now it’s practically unusable.

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      27 days ago

      You think Lemmy is better? Mods here are engaging in the same shitty behaviours. Lack of moderator accountability is a serious issue on this platform.

      Edit: brigading just proves my point, you dumb fucks.

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          28 days ago

          Remember when the person behind GamingOnLinux decided to leave Lemmy after someone pointed out their community manipulation tactics in the modlog? Something that you have to assume they had been able to get away with as a Reddit mod. They then took to Mastodon or something to complain about how a modlog being public is “bad design”.

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            27 days ago

            What kind of agenda would a GamingOnLinux powermod push?

            IMO the biggest flaw is that the mod log doesn’t append a copy of the content that was deleted. It allows mods to just straight up lie.

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              27 days ago

              From what I have seen, removed comments definitely are still visible in the modlog. But if the mod just bans the user instead of removing the comment, all the user’s comments are automatically removed as a result and are not visible in the modlog. All that said, you are correct, this can be abused by moderators who understand the distinction and take advantage of it.

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        28 days ago

        I absolutely have observed mods on Lemmy engaging in the same shitty behaviors (I am sitting on a post about a little cabal of [email protected] people who seem to be trying to rig the discourse in a particular direction to meet their electoral goals). But the simple fact of it being less centralized and more transparent (and with more of a culture of effective pushback against the mods) makes it a lot harder. They can’t just say “lol get fucked” like the mod from this post did and have that be the end of the story.

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          28 days ago

          Plus federation means that the admins can’t just step in and shut down any competing communities unless they are on their instance. And if that happens, it just starts up on another instance.

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      27 days ago

      At one point it was a glorious place. Then 5 people became admins and mods of the most popular 100 sub reddits and began controlling the narrative to fit their beliefs. In my opinion reddit has been dead for at least 5 years now