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Using google maps from Australia it’s labelled like “Gulf of Mexico (Gulf of America)”
I think the Australian government should call it “gulf of not Australia” and see if google adds another title.
Well. O. K. Then it’s my not the 'USA" that did this anymore. It’s to be called “North Mexico” now. Fair’s fair.
Next president, assuming there is one, will just change it back to repair relations with our allies.
Even if it never gets changed back, it’ll be a generation before people actually start calling it that. No one alive now is going to give a fuck about the Gulf of America or call it that.
Hey conservatives, not that you’re intelligent enough to figure out how to get on Lemmy, but if by some miracle one of you reads this, why is Trump doing this and floating invading our allies and annexing their territories instead of lowering the price of groceries as promised on day 1?
You eat your Freedom Fries and you like it
This whole thing is extremely cringe. There isn’t any other way to put it. Trump. His executive order. The compliance. It’s all cringe.
Though to be fair cringe is like right in the very blood to Google anyway so what would you expect…
I mean, just look at how they often respond on their bug tracker platform of most of their products and how they try to justify their endless streams of questionable design decisions, that seems to be characteristic of them at this point lol
Interesting discussion about this on the OpenStreetMap forums.
The resolution is introducing “official_name” tags, referencing “en_us”, because “en” is not just the U.S.:
https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/gulf-of-america-gulf-of-mexico/124571/11
So when OsmAnd or OrganicMaps start to support them, maybe your locale settings will change the displayed name there as well.
Current description of that node: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/305639190/history/80
So maybe that could be a reason for everyone around the world to stop using en_US locale settings. XD
Time for a repeat comment: Organic Maps does everything Google Maps does (except traffic conditions), and is FOSS. Please encourage places to contribute business information to Open Street Maps.
I just tried it and found three dealbreakers instantly.
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It doesn’t have my address (I know I could add it but who knows what else it’s missing)
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It couldn’t find any public transport routes in my area
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There is no satellite view
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The traffic conditions is huge tho
Just last week, that philly plane crash, I saw exactly where the roads are closed and which roads are congested.
I’m all for swapping apps, but Organic Maps doesn’t even have my home address. And I live in a major metropolitan area.
Add it to OSM?
That solves the problem this time, but it doesn’t help if I’m trying to navigate somewhere new.
If it doesn’t have the address for a 30-year-old house in a major metropolitan area, then I just don’t think it’s a viable replacement for Google Maps, unfortunately.
Every time I try to navigate to an address that’s missing in OSM, I just navigate to the nearest one instead. It’s not a big deal.
And when I have 5 minutes of free time, I add the address.That’s how OSM works. There isn’t a dev or company to blame, you can literally fix the missing data yourself. And that’s the only way it works.
I wish OSM had the resources to make something akin to Pokemon Go but instead of capturing something, it adds it to the database.
You are in luck my friend: https://streetcomplete.app/
They have made it super easy and fun. I have been playing it for nearly a year and have made a pretty big dent in my local dense metro area.
Found this thing yesterday. I’ve contributed to OSM more in a day than in the previous year. It’s great.
Thanks, I was following this thread and wanted to say the same thing
I’ve kept updating shops that change, new houses, parking, etc… it’s great. I even used it on vacation (when the SO wasn’t looking)
My global rank is #1554 and ~#130ish in my local country, but #12 in another country I barely visit, so it shows where more people should
complain lesssupport more.Wow good work, my global ranking is #2449.
Ha, yeah it’s good that you slowly clear out your local area because my SO did not appreciate me trying to answer questions while we walked.
oh yay!!
My test search for the UPS store up the street sent me 4km away. So…not great.
Just swapped apps. Thanks for the suggestion!
I use Google maps mostly to find out where things are, and unfortunately OSM does not have as many places as Google Maps. I can add one or two places I notice are missing (even though the phone interface isn’t that easy) but Google Maps consistently has better information, so I mostly use organic maps for when I already know the address or already know the location is in its database.
Also, report an error to google maps:
It reads: I read “Gulf of America”. That must be a mistake.
I can’t seem to do this from the phone app
Obviously that’s not going to make one iota of difference. They’re an American company and they have been ordered by the president of the country to do this. They already do similar things in other authoritarian countries like China and Turkey, because anything else would risk the safety of Google employees.
If you don’t like it, change to a non-American product and/or vote for a different president.
I somehow have a feeling that being president of the USA does not mean you can do whatever you want and people have to follow… Google Map, for one, is a product of a private company, not a Federal Service of the USA - so if they want to call it “Gulf of Google”, they could!
Then you’re right, they already protect/black out places and some places’ names, however the Gulf of America, like the Channel of Washington are just bs that in the worst case scenario will live 4 years. So it’s a joke and I like joking tooThe American president can only order so much. As of yesterday, the BGN has changed the name, but this affects Federal Government usage. Google as a private company could continue to use the common name if they wanted to.
This is why Open Street Maps has a “name” field and “official name” field, for where these two aren’t the same. This is already the case for the English names “Saigon” and “Ho Chi Minh City” which refer to the same place in Vietnam.
Well, that’s apparently for the courts to decide. In the meantime they have an executive order to contend with. Google has reclassified the U.S. as a “sensitive country” along with other authoritarian regimes and I’m convinced that this is partly out of concern for the safety of Google employees. Who knows what maga cultists might do if they don’t comply.
Personally I think that obeying in advance only makes it a riskier place for the employees, but it is not my decision to make.
Regardless, I don’t see what issue the courts would have with a private company using the common name of a geographical feature instead of the official government name. That would be a violation of the 1st amendment protection of free speech from government intervention.
That’s a weird flex by South Canada.
What a great time to download Organic maps
How does it compare to OsmAnd?
Organic Maps has fewer features and settings, a more stripped-down user interface, and concentrates on what most people use the most (find an address, navigate to it).
It is also much, much faster than OsmAnd.
Personally, I find OsmAnd too slow and clunky, and Organic Maps a bit too basic.
But I prefer Organic Maps 95% of the time.Also a great choice. I prefer organic maps for a variety of reasons (like ability to contribute to the maps), but a lot of people prefer OsmAnd. They are both very good.
It’s a massive upgrade in terms of aesthetics and privacy!
I love that it’s not google, and the UI is nice, but the lack of realtime traffic info is a real blocker for me
You might be interested in Magic Earth it is also built on OpenStreetMap but includes crowdsourced traffic data. If you are in a big city then it’s likely they have good data for your area.
is there a web version?
Would be shame if google are snowed under with reports the name is wrong :-)
Just tried: the ‘report an issue’/‘suggest an edit’ button doesn’t appear when The Gulf of Mexico is selected.
It does for other locations, but not for the Gulf.
Report an issue through the base report feature
Open maps > your profile picture > last option on the list
You can directly reference and include a screenshot of the map
It’s because people already Mass reported it so they disabled the ability for it
Google can officially gargle deez nutz
Cancun Texas! Have you guys been? Its beautiful! Just a short flight across the golf of America and located in southflorida…Flucatan.
Genuinely curious… How does Google handle other oceanic naming that isn’t agreed upon Worldwide?
Generally, Google shows the appropriate name based upon where you are located. So for everyone outside of 'murica, it’s still the Gulf of Mexico.
They said that but it’s a fat lie.
They did say both names, but this is a complete cop out.
Nothing will meaningfully improve until the rich fear for their lives
Bingo.
Imagine getting every “alpha male” 2A nutjob violent conservative to realize who their actual enemy is.
We’d get some actual positive change in an extremely short period of time.
This is the way.
What a bunch of cucks! The billionaires have fully taken over!
They took it over from the millionaires!
and the trillionaires will soon take over!
For them to not exist and to stop it they need to be cleaned over regularly. Some countries had that figured out.
