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    Concentration camp/torture camp.

    Lots of people fantasize about what they might do if they had the opportunity to act to stop what was happening in WWII Germany but here we are.

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      All the big, strong, don’t-tread-on-me styled people just rolling on their backs and showing their bellies to fascism. What a time to be alive, at least Germans of the 1920s-30s didn’t have a direct case study to refer to.

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    Guantanamo Bay… the blacksite for literal terrorists that is considered highly controversial for literal terrorists? What the actual fuck.

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    Are they just reviewing all the accusations they made about Democrats over the past few years and just using that as a template for what they want to do.

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    Oh I see what he is doing here, screw over 30.000 people, then send them over to their biggest enemies to learn a how to take revenge. America collapse soeedrun

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      I’m still not clear what the first “A” in maga is supposed to reference, seeing what’s happening these days. All I know is that it’s clearly not “America” or a reference to the US.

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        It’s the “G” that’s confusing you. “Great” in this context means “Christian White Nationalist.”

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        Aryans

        spits on ground

        Oops look at me I meant to spit on A’murica but I must have missed because I hit stolen indigenous land that was brutally and horrifically ripped from the hands of normal, good people who looked a bit different and lived in funny houses.

        …and then stolen again from immigrants who came here and were foolish or desperate enough to believe they would be included in the prosperity they spent extraordinary amounts of effort building…

        Third time is the charm?

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    for those of you who live in the US: there must surely be Republican voters being appalled by this too, right? Right?

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      Our people are horrible, vindictive morons.

      And I don’t mean that from a place of emotional response to bad things, I am saying all of this dispassionately and analytically. The country has a large population of people who are objectively horrible, and vindication has become our primary focus for political action, and this is all because they’re generally morons.

      I can’t even really exaggerate or overplay this. The average American’s intelligence is worse than abysmal. I used to lead a team of data-workers at a large company, we had nice, casual morning meetings and talked about the latest events for about a half hour before work. I ended up in the position of people bringing me news stories and headlines to “translate” for them. I had to explain what planets are, I had to explain how gravity works, I had to explain how democracy works, I had to explain history and math and facts and ratios and words like “industrious” or “ambivalent” every day, over and over. AND I’M NOT A SMART PERSON. I have always prided myself on being informed, but at some point I became the one-eyed king in the land of the blind and I hate it.

      Everything here is going to get so, so much worse because I know how far down the barrel goes, and we haven’t even touched the bottom yet.

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      Some of the single-issue voters probably are, but not enough to actually vote against their single issue in the future.

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        That would require them to vote at all and Facebooks ain’t gonna scroll on the couch itself!

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      62% of the country supports deporting all illegals. Something that would be unbelievable a decade or two ago is now true for most Americans.

      A strong majority of the country supports putting millions of people in camps and keeping them there for years. Of course GOP is more fervently against it- the same GOP that idolizes Reagan who gave blanket citizenship to millions of illegals.

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        100% of that 62% have no idea at all what is going to happen to many services they depend on. Doesn’t matter if it’s the price of food on the table going up because the farm workers disappeared or the person disappearing who has the necessary but unglamorous job of cleaning bedpans at the nursing home, they’re all very important jobs that people will miss immediately, and they can often be done by migrants or illegal workers.

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          Yes, for most of my life I thought we would never get rid of the illegals for precisely this reason. They are so integrated into our economy that eliminating them would cause a huge fallout. Almost 15 million people here. And they’re dramatically over-represented in specific industries.

          So for example, you mentioned food. Agriculture, especially in the SW, runs on illegal labor. Construction all over the country runs on illegal labor. The people washing dishes at restaurants, the people cleaning up offices at night, the people working at landscaping companies, etc.

          All of those industries are about to experience a severe supply shock of labor. This is going to mean increased prices for food, for landscaping, for construction, etc. Not only that, the services are going to be increasingly harder to staff. It’s really hard to find an American willing to relocate to rural areas to dig holes. It’s hard to find ones that are willing to pick fruit, etc.

          Not to mention the effect that 15 million less consumers eating at local restaurants, buying products from Amazon, paying rent, will have.

          And the worst part of it, the part that scares me, is that I’m certain Trump and his allies know this. They are entirely aware of the potential consequences of what they are doing. It does not take an economic savant to understand this and certainly Trump has some very smart advisors around him. So they are aware and they are doing it anyway.

          What does that imply? That means they are willing to nuke our economy for this (throw in tariffs too while we’re at it). And when I say nuke I mean nuke- there’s no going back after this. We’re causing permanent long-term structural damage. Why would he be willing to do this?

          I fear because there’s a lot worse on the horizon. Global war will overshadow the economic fallout from these decisions and will be pointed to as the cause of the near-future economic woes. Maybe I’m jumping to conclusions here, but this is not a good omen. It’s sort of like suicidal people giving away all their money before they off themselves. It’s a red flag.

          I think we’re fucked with a capital F

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      They’ll claim they disagree with it and they don’t like Trump (except for -insert all his policies-) and then vote for him for a third term when he makes that legal. They need to pretend not to salivate about oppressing brown people when they are in polite company but that’s about it.

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      Immigration detention centers have been around for a while now. Virtually all of them ran by private corporations. People rail against private prisons but they make up a tiny tiny minority of prisoners. Over 90% of immigration detention centers are privately owned.

      So we’re going to throw millions of people into camps so that a few corporations can extract a ton of public taxpayer money. They’re also gonna stay there for years because it’s logistically impossible to move over 10 million people quickly.

      I didn’t think fascism would happen again my lifetime. But I guess here we are

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    So trump is going to build “housing” for 30.000 people, plus possibly hundreds of guards, who all need food, guards will need actual housing with maybefamilies who will need recreation too…

    Just saying, this sounds like a VERY expensive distraction from the fact that they’re working hard on robbing the US coffers blind…

    Now make this for the 20 million or so, and you get to understand why the US will be bankrupt and over 4 years from now if this idiots continues this

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      Just saying, this sounds like a VERY expensive distraction from the fact that they’re working hard on robbing the US coffers blind…

      Doesn’t matter if the country goes broke. Something like 90% of immigration detention centers are privately owned. This whole thing is going to funnel hundreds of millions if not billions of dollars of taxpayer money right into the pockets of wealthy shareholders.

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    MAGA has a hardon for cruelty. It’s about hurting people. They love the idea a rounding up non-white people, loading them into boxcars, and shipping them off to concentration camps. Everything that Trump has done so far is going make billionaires richer and regular Americans much poorer but as long as he’s hurting non-whites they will sit around giving each other rage handies and praising him.

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      but as long as he’s hurting non-whites they will sit around giving each other rage handies and praising him

      What I find fascinating is the right-wing illegal immigration latinos who support Trump. Up until now they’ve been saying “He’s not going to deport us, he’s deporting the criminals”. I just read a news article about half of the people they’ve arrested so far did not have any criminal records.

      White House press secretary goes live the other day and says “We’re going to deport all of them. They’re all criminals as far as I’m concerned”

      I think people have this instinctual burning desire to feel part of an “in-group” and to hate against an “out-group”. It’s such a strong burning desire that people will jump through so many mental hoops even when they are in the “out-group”.

      Note that being illegal is not a crime. It’s like when you get a parking ticket. It’s against the law but it isn’t a criminal violation. But of course the administration doesn’t care and neither does the army of rabid Americans cheering on the destruction of the country.

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    I’m sure imprisoning 30000 innocent people next to highly trained terrorists won’t come back to haunt the US.

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      No, they can’t. Guantanamo is a very harsh environment with very small capacity

      Edit: well, I guess if the plan is to starve them and put them in unliveable conditions where disease is rampant and they begin to die in droves…yes it would make sense then.

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        They looked at Auschwitz, realized that zirkon B was too expensive, and decided that Malaria and Dysentery can do it for cheaper.

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      Theoretically? Well Manhattan has a population density of about 73,000 people per square mile so it’s certainly possible to safely provide for 30,000 people in the space of Guantanamo Bay.

      In practice? There’s no way they’ll be doing anything like that, and the cruelty is the point.

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    Colombia, which eventually backed down, slammed the US’ treatment of migrants since Trump came to power.

    Why do they continue to repeat this narrative? Colombia wanted the migrants to be deported under humanly conditions. The US did that, now Colombia will take them. The threats of sanctions has nothing to do with it but it makes Trump look strong.