And they’re already kissing Trump’s ass

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    That second paragraph is just vile. Donny brought this ban into motion and now they say he will save them?

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    I know bad for democracy and everything but

    This app has done nothing positive for my life, arguably began my social media addiction, filled my brain with negative content at the height of COVID and severely impacted my mental health

    I don’t think governments should ban platforns. But do I think TikTok should have ever existed? No

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    What I find mad is that people are seriously depressed about this on /r/Tiktok. Yeah sure, I understand small creators now having a tough time having their business disappearing, but people are literally saying that TikTok was their only source of information and that they don’t know what to do now??

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      Given the amount of nonsense that was on tiktok they’ll probably be more informed now.

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      So the ban is reaching exactly the people it was set out to reach. Good.

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    Surreal watching the rest of the internet freaking out. Meanwhile we are just sitting here on our own platforms doing our own things.

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      Personally, I never saw the appeal of TikTok anyway.

      Then again I also was never interested in Twitter.

      I guess my attention span isn’t short enough for that type of sites.

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        TikTok has tons of issues but this bugs me so much. There are many examples of people sharing their creativity, their skill, their knowledge, their passion to the world on tiktok and it’s so good at exposing you to it if you are interested in seeing all kinds of people expressing themselves.

        Since when does the value of content correlate directly with the amount of time it consumes?

        is brevity no longer the soul of wit??

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        I would scroll a bit after someone linked me a video. Content was fun, but after like 3 minutes, I could feel something wrong in my brain. Like just the nonstop influx of content with no breaks. You might think one video was faked, but you didn’t have enough time to contemplate it before another shows up in its place.

        I have some friends who spend hours on it. I can’t imagine deciding to participate in that for so long.

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          Short video formats on all platforms make me very quickly feel like I’m going crazy. Just one voice after another, trying to cram whatever they have to say into your ears, or one joke taken out of context, or one simplistic moral, or absurdist humor that wouldn’t hold up for longer than a few seconds. My partner watches endless “reels” on Facebook, and that hurried talking they all do, with all those cuts to make sure there’s no gap between words, makes me fell very weird and agitated. It’s like everyone has the same voice. And then it keeps looping. I waste far too much time on Lemmy but the short video stuff seems like another level of brain melt.

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      Tiktok ban is a good opportunity to educate the common folk on the benefits of federation

      Although I am not sure if short video format addicts’ needs can be fixed with this elegant solution but it definitely works well enough as reddit and twitter replacement.

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          Shit ain’t free!

          But text is cheap enough to make text base federated social media a thing. So freedom oriented plebs have a refuge.

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        It’s called Instagram or YouTube Shorts. Same thing…TikTok offered nothing new. And I’m here, but all I see on Lemmy are the same posts 3-4 times, predictable pearl clutching reactions to everything, and very limited news coverage with a proclivity for posting random, fringe sources

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          I don’t respect corporate trash… But if it works for you, great!

          Make sure to have location sharing enabled;)

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      It is a nice asset why shouldnt an American oligarch own it though

      Democracy, free market, and capitalism 🤡

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    so which was the kicker that brought the swearing-in indoors:

    a) afraid of riots because of tiktok ban.

    b) afraid of his malformed 'shroom freezing to his diaper in the cold.

    c) afraid of getting another piercing.

    d) afraid of dreadfully pathetic crowds at the mall and in photographs he can’t lie about after last time.

    e) all of the above.

    f) all of the above, and also…

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    And now Trump gets to be the one who saved TikTok, despite starting the process.

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      It’s an own-goal for Biden - an unpopular law that starts being enforced the day before Trump gets to stop enforcing it.

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        No one is enforcing it, it’s a play by TikTok. TikTok did it voluntarily. The server is still there, my wife logged in and saw the notice.

        It’s just theater.

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          No one is enforcing it, it’s a play by TikTok. TikTok did it voluntarily

          Yup. In fact, Biden had specifically said he will not enforce the ban.

          Which, incidentally…might be the same thing Trump does to “unban TikTok” once he takes office. Which is bizarre, on both sides. Like…that’s literally not legal for a president to do. They can’t legally just ignore an Act of Congress.

          Not that the law matters in America anymore. The Supreme Court has pretty definitively seen to that.

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            enforcement is up to the ag, so yea. they could just ‘ignore’ the law.

            the only thing the ‘president’ can do is extend the deadline by 90 days given evidence that the company is closing-in on a deal.

            with scotus out of the way, ruling in favor of trump’s initial desires, and that which subsequently passed through congress; it is now up to congress to undo the legislation if they so choose.

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              enforcement is up to the ag, so yea. they could just ‘ignore’ the law.

              In practice, there’s no real mechanism to force it (especially if Congress is unwilling to impeach & convict). But legally speaking, the Take Care clause of the constitution obligates the President (through his executive) to enforce all laws passed by Congress. Ignoring it would be unconstitutional.

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            The executive branch can selectively enforce laws, look at all the weed dispensaries the feds could just waltz into and have a federal case against everyone.

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          TikTok and its service providers are liable. “No one is enforcing” is meaningless, because they can still be prosecuted retrospectively if the US Government changes its mind.

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        Not sure why you think it’s an own goal. Biden didn’t set the day for it to take effect, that was written into the law by Congress. You could say it was an own goal because Biden announced he wasn’t going to enforce it, but that seems to be the opposite of what you’re trting to claim And even with that decision to not enforce the law for 1 day before the Trump admin takes over, none of the companies TikTok works with like Apple or Google to list it in the app stores gave a shit about that lack of enforcement because of the uncertainty.

        Not to mention Trump being the start of the ban in the first place. He was President when all of this started to work it’s way through the process, even if Biden was the President when it actually made it through Congress, with bipartisan support. Trump only changed positions because he wants TokTok to pay him to continue to allow it to continue.

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          More Americans have TikTok accounts than vote. For a shitload of normies who have only the vaguest notion of politics and current affairs, the app they’ve been enjoying gets cut off as the defining event of the waning days of the Biden administration. They are not going to care about how Trump tried to do it first, or it was bipartisan, or whatever. It’s hard not to see how this will cost Dems dearly.

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            No it won’t. Biden is already out of office as far as normies are concerned. He has been since the election, but definitely within 24 hours of inauguration. TikTok stops working and the next thing they see is Trump having a huge party with a shit ton of pomp and circumstance for his inauguration as he gets into the White House. And then TikTok still doesn’t work when they open it up. Maybe he brings it back, maybe he doesn’t. Voters don’t pay enough attention to separate his inauguration and the TikTok ban happening 24 hours apart, they’ll bundle it together as one event.

            Unless he gets a massive cash infusion from Bytedance in the next 24 hours, he won’t give TikTok an extension on day one in office. He’s the kind of person that expects his payment up front.

            So everyone will instead see it stop working as President Trump takes over, and then it continuing to not work after. Some may give him the benefit of the doubt, but they weren’t ever going to vote for anyone else anyway, he’s their God Emperor President and they’ve confirmed their world view around him being perfect.

            Heck, he might try to spin it as some sort of promotional opportunity for Truth Social.

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              The law isn’t being enforced. TikTok can just put it back up tomorrow and imply it was Trump that did it.

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                That won’t stop Apple and Google from keeping it pulled from app stores until things are more concrete.

                TikTok only blocked access and put that notice up in the app after their partners decided that a statement from the outgoing administration 24 before the transition wasn’t enough for them to not comply with the law.

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      There’s still loads of bullshit surrounding the name. Hope your personal filters are up to the task the next 4 years.

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    Damn it of course TikTok getting banned was too good to be true