My grandchildren will enjoy the relative bliss of non-existence.
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I got fixed a couple months ago. Best decision ever.
For nearly 40 years, I’ve been told the horrors of climate change. For nearly 40 years, I’ve watched climate change unravel. And now at nearly 40 years on this planet, I’ve reached a point where I am more concerned about immediate human activity affecting my life rather than the breakdown and collapse of our planet’s environment.
At no point in my life has there ever been a desire to bring a new life into this horrifying existence.
Now if only those weird and miserable old men would stop calling me selfish for not having children. Their obsession with my genitals makes me uncomfortable.
Come on. Can I just have a little bit of control over your genitals? It’s all I ever think about!
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Now if only those weird and miserable old men would stop calling me selfish for not having children.
I’ve found it works pretty well to just beat em to it. “Man, I’d love to have a kid, but bringing a child into this dumpster fire on purpose just so I can have a ‘little bundle of joy’ would be so selfish. It’s just not fair to the kid, ya know?!”
Worked on my parents at least, lol.
i’d say that’s a coin flip on whether it works or not :)
(that’s because unfortunately not all parents give a flying fuck about the mental health that that child would be going to have, or rather, not have)
i’d go with something like “sure i’ll make children if you pay for them”
the moment they realize how expensive having children can be, that typically shuts them up rather quickly.
oh i’m not sure if it means anything to you if i say it, but:
i think you’re doing good for the environment. I’m not saying there’s too many people already (because there aren’t), but still, if there are fewer children being born, that will take off a significant pressure from the environment and that will affect everything positively. :)
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Surgical tech, here. :D
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Antinatalism or anti-natalism is a philosophical view that deems procreation to be unethical or unjustifiable.
Technically we haven’t made it through yet. In the 2020’s 5 years is a REALLY long time.
Well, I hope we both make it.
It’s impossible to say since no one has actually lived through the 2020s. It’s 2025 dude, we’re all right in the middle of the 2020s.
I think there’s enough trauma already to go around.
People in power are actively dreaming up new unspeakable horrors to release upon the American public as we speak.
I’m sure there’s plenty more trauma to come
Every decade had it’s pile of shit, and for the moment, the 2020’s have been a walk in the Park compared to 2010’s.
Sure covid was a wild-ride, where we had to mostly stay at home when no valid reason to go-out, and when out the city was quiet. and then proceeding to normal life with some accommodation is weird,
Remember the 2010’s with the long-tail of the 2008 economic crisis, the terrorist attacks (and all the security measure impact on day to day life), The start of the Ukraine war, The Syrian civil-war, the politicians not listening to kids protesting climate change, the Brexit, and tons of other crazy problems ?
Bold to asume I want children.
Even bolder to assume those fictional children would even want children.
The assumption was that you might have grandchildren. Not that you want them 😉
Some want their own kids, some not. Some don’t know them…
I’ll pass none :3… unless they invent mpreg, the chances of me having grandchildren are close to 0
Brb gonna register “AO3 Laboratories, LLC”
None. A very long time before any of this started going down, both my sister and myself informed my parents that neither of us were having children and that this particular line stops here.
Not because of any trauma (that I can remember). But we’ve both seen the state of the world and decided, with our respective partners, that forcing children into this shit-show is unconscionable.
I completely understand that kind of decision. Unfortunately its only gonna make it worse. If the people potentially making a positive impact on the world stop having children the downward spiral accelerates.
Kinda implying people born to idiot parents can’t overcome and disagree with their idiocy.
Speaking from experience, you have to admit it IS quite rare. Like it’s probably just common enough to raise-up another frustrated, powerless minority. I do have kids, by the way, so it’s not an anti-kid rant.
Im not saying they cant, but kids indoctrinated by racist egomaniacs are much more likely to turn out the same way.
Yeaaaaa and I don’t disagree lol
Worse for people who are here, yes, but not a reason to bring into being a whole new person.
Not just people
Yes and every other being is probably better off without us.
So you think the downward spiral is caused by the people in the population and not the political situation?
I love my children so much I chose not to bring them into this fucked up world.
The value of working in my home office. Since the start of covid, and ongoing. Maybe I am overvaluing it now. But maybe not?
Never trust the news, never trust the government, always keep your security at maximum
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As someone who was 17 during covid… seems like it was a fine time to learn to me /j
Never trust the news, never trust the government,
Actually, I’ve been okay with our government this last half-decade. It’s not been awesome, but it’s been nowhere near as bad as, say, America’s last 90 days. We avoid the foreign-owned press a bit more, now that they’ve self-identified themselves, but our leader has been … I’m gonna say ‘okay’ … and the health advice and status from our head health honcho was … adequate.
A deranged flatlander, though? Never trusting one of those whackadoos again.
Lack of existence because I sterilized myself after the SCOTUS decision ending Roe leaked
Fortunately my grand children remain unborn.
Don’t assume your tax dollars are put to good use. If your neighbors are gullible enough, your money will literally be siphoned towards repressing you.
Invest globally.
None, because I’m never having children
I’ve always thought it cruel to have children as they’re incapable of consenting to sapient existence. Add in living in America on a dying planet, and now you’re just being deliberately cruel by having kids on purpose.
The fascists have no qualms with having kids and raising them to be little fascists, too. I had kids because I wanted to love and care for people as I help them develop into capable and caring people, but I’m also glad that at least 2 of the members of the generation who will be running this planet when I’m old won’t have been raised by fascists.
I think this whole line of reasoning that it’s immoral or cruel to have children at all is just plain dumb and utterly nonsensical. Yes, there’s a lot of fucked up shit in the world. But, other than climate change, this is far from the worst the world has ever been. Brining people into the world now is not particularly worse for them than, say, having kids in Medieval Europe where there was a decent chance they’d die as an infant or get the plague, but the best case you could hope for was to give them the life of a subsistence dirt farmer. Or ancient Mesopotamia, where, again, odds are they’d die in childhood, but they couldn’t expect better than barely surviving on the edge of starvation. Etc, etc, etc.
Yet through all that people managed to find ways to improve their conditions and that of those around them. People fought and built better lives and a better world. Fuck anyone who tells me I should just give up and just resign that the world now and forever belongs to the fascists and capitalists.
Having kids is not cruel. Despite the darkness, there’s still a hell of a lot of happiness to be had in this world. I look at the expressions of pure joy on my kids’ faces as they explore the forest near our house, or when I get home from work, or when they make cookies for their mom, etc. And you’re telling me giving them that joy is cruel? How detached from reality do you have to be to believe that?
Unless there is some higher plane of existence experiencing life is inconsequential. Suffering and joy alike. Nothingness does not appreciate anything.
So I have to evaluate here on earth if the value of some joy outweighs the suffering experienced. The only case I can say that it matters, for myself, is when my own joy brought others joy. That was the only thing that was worth it.
when my own joy brought others joy. That was the only thing that was worth it.
If that’s something you truly value, then you should absolutely have kids. There is no joy greater than that which a child feels, especially one with a loving family.
I also don’t think experiencing life is inconsequential. Sure, it doesn’t have some grand cosmic consequence. Our existence has virtually 0 impact on nearly all of reality. But that’s not the only way to define something as consequential. What’s important to me is my life and the lives of those I care about (which extends far beyond just the people I know personally). My kids’ existence has been enormously consequential for many people who I care about, and my life has been enormously consequential on that of my kids.
I don’t need some grand cosmic meaning behind that. The meaning of life is whatever you choose to make of it. For me, that’s providing as much enjoyment and fulfillment to my family as I can.
Are you capable of guaranteeing these children will never suffer in their lives?
Of course not. Everyone suffers in their life at some point. That’s called being alive.
I think that’s also an absurd hurdle to insist someone has to clear.
Truly the stupidest thing I’ve seen on Lemmy today, and that’s a fucking high bar to leap.
None. My line ends with me.
hear, hear!
